Work/Study Session
January 19, 2026
Transcript
Castle Pines North Metropolitan District Work Session- January 2026
Monday, January 19, 2026 at 5:30 PM MST to Monday, January 19, 2026 at 7:00 PM MST
7404 Yorkshire Drive, Castle Pines, CO 80108
Agenda
I. Call Work Session to order
A. Roll call & disclosure of potential conflicts
II. On board Navigation
Opportunity to ensure the Board is signed up for and signed in to On board. Opportunity to ask
questions.
III. Finance Items
A. Review monthly claims for payments made from November 14th, 2025 to January
13th, 2026
Presenter: Eric Harris
B. Review Updated District Chart of Accounts for 2026
Presenters: Eric Harris, Molly Janzen
IV. Legal Items
A. Review 11.17.25 Work Session Meeting Minutes
B. Review 11.24.25 Board Meeting Minutes
V. District Manager Items
A. Expenditure Requests
Presenter: Logan Smith, Owner First Rate Fence and Repair
B. Update: Castle Pines Community Center Renovations
VI. Adjourn
Board President Jason Blankaert:
Good evening and welcome to the Castle Pines North Metropolitan District work session for January 2026. Today is January 19th, 2026 at 5:45 p.m. roughly, and we will call this work session to order. Begin with the roll call. Jana. Here. Tera. Here. Leah. Here. Jason. I'm here with no conflicts. And we are missing Jim tonight. I don't know if he's joining the.
District Manager Nathan Travis (off-mic):
But I am going to assume he is not coming. He was in Turkey.
Jason:
Okay. Very good. All right. We'll go ahead and close out item number one. And we will move on to the item number two with Nathan on the On board Navigation.
Nathan:
Yeah. So I just wanted to kind of briefly check in with the board, see if everybody had a chance to get signed up into the On board platform.
If there's any questions I can answer. And other than that, I just want to run through some really kind of, like, basic navigation stuff once you get in. So this is the first time that we've been, able to, you know, get this platform kind of up and running. I think by all accounts, it's been fairly, fairly seamless so far.
Describer:
On Screen.
A meeting Screen with Details Agenda and Analytics tabs and many other pages. It shows the invitations, access to controls and resources. Nathan explains.
Nathan:
Paul and, Eric were both able to upload their documents and manipulate the agenda fairly easily. It's a it's pretty simple. From the board perspective, when you log in, what you should do first, you should I, I think you're going to be taken to this meeting screen when you log in if it's set up. So, when you first log into the platform, it should bring you to this meeting screen.
As we update and build the packet, this will get updated. So you'll get to kind of see the agenda as it evolves. You know, give you opportunity to reach out if you have any questions or want anything added or changed. And then the packet also kind of gets built as we add documentation. And so one of the one of the advantages there is, you know, if we've got, you know, one, one reporter, one piece of information that's I'm waiting on to build the packet, you know, you'll have access to everything else.
It just kind of auto populates. And so after you go to the meeting screen, you just kind of click on the relevant meeting. And for the purposes of actually going through your usual, there's a look a little bit different. It's not an admin front. If you are joining remotely. So for a zoom meeting, especially since we'll talk about a later when they start the, renovations here, we move remote.
It's really, really simple. From where you log in, there's this join zoom button. So you click Join Zoom and then, join in using On board. And so that'll set you up with what I've got here with kind of whoops I apologize. That's was full screen was supposed to be full screen there. So it'll give you this like picture in picture for the actual board meeting, just like a kind of standard zoom window.
And then it'll let you keep the rest of the meeting pane open. The way that we've got this currently set up is I am I'm actually hosting the meetings and then just sharing my screen. So if the member of the public logs into the zoom meeting, they would see this the screen up there. For the purposes of like the, the built in, like, you know, taking the transcripts minute building.
I forgot where I was going with there,
Board Member Director Jana Krell:
But you get away from emailing us and stuff, and since we're going to have it here through the On board? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you want us to RSVP through this, too? Like so.
Nathan:
Yeah. Yeah. And so that was one thing that I was going to. I'm glad you brought that up.
So the I had sent out calendar invites for those individual meetings before I got into On board. I'll probably delete all of those and then send the RSVP through here. That'll...
Jana:
Will they hook to our outlook though. Or like.
Nathan:
Yeah, this will just send you a calendar invite.
Jana:
On board will. Yeah. Cool. Okay. So it'll it should work exactly the same.
Okay.
Nathan:
Yep. And then you can just, you know, jump in or
Board Member Director Tera Radloff:
If you want me to show up. Don't delete the
Jana:
Maybe don't delete them yet. Deal for deal, don’t delete them yet until we're good with... Delete. Okay. Don't forget the calendar events until we all make sure that we understand how the On board works. Because that's my thought too, is that I want to see it on my phone.
I wanted to remind me. I want it to ping me. And, I just want to make sure that works the same way. And I know it sounds like it does, but still, for me, and Tera.
Nathan:
That was actually a functionality question. Speaking of notifications that, Jim James had Director Mulvey had, was whether or not you guys will get notifications every time we upload documents or change something.
You won't. So there's different statuses that'll happen. And then it's it's just not automated. So I can have that set up and I can show Eric and, Paul how to actually actually send a notification that says, like, hey, I did something. We can send that out. It's just not automatic.
Jana:
So typically I would review these on a Friday, like, you know, I go through all this.
It'll be there for me Friday? and expect
Nathan:
Everything that we've uploaded. Yeah.
Jana:
And then but stuff could still change and it'll. Okay I think it's fine.
Nathan:
Yeah. We'll we'll try to minimize it.
Jana:
I know it does. So, Okay. I think I understand what it's for them. I think I have a pretty good wrapper on it so.
Nathan:
Yep. So if you were going to. So, like I said, if you're joining remotely or on a zoom call, you go through that zoom. Join, zoom. Join in On board. And that'll keep you in this kind of frame of mind in person here. We don't have to do that. I'm going to be the only one. Or what?
Describer:
On Screen.
Open Book Feature which is under the invitees the first resource on the left of the screen. Nathan describers.
Nathan:
Terrence and I. I guess we'll be the ones that are on the zoom call. For now, at least. So you just go to this open book feature, and this will bring you into kind of like the actual meeting. And so it's not that different from having your own PDFs. You'll be able to, you know, it's kind of like follow along so, you know, you're not it won't be me navigating the screen for you.
Like, you'll have your own control. A couple of reasons for that. One is, at least what our board says is it encourages, you know, participation, making sure that people are actively engaged in meetings. The other advantage of that is everybody has, kind of the same view here on minimize this really quickly. So if you live right up here in the top middle of the screen, it says view and annotate.
So if you go to you can do this actively in a meeting. You can do this before meeting. You can do this whenever. But if you go into that annotate, it actually lets you take notes directly on the board packet. Those aren't shared, so you don't have to worry about any sunshine laws or anything like that.
And then you don't have to worry about it being broadcasted.
Jana:
And where do they go?
Nathan:
They just get saved onto the document for your reference.
Jana:
So it's kind of in a cloud for us. So that if I went back to last month, my notes would still be there.
Nathan:
Yeah. You'll be able to see, there's a link that I can, that I can send out that'll have every meeting that's ever been done and On board.
It'll keep it historical.
Jana:
I doubt I would ever write something that would concern my concern me. But is it public records then? Whatever I type like, if I. Open record. Open records law? Is that what I'm referring to?
Legal Counsel Paul Polito, Esq.:
Yep. That's right. So if it's a draft only for your eyes and it's not going to be shared yet, then that's not a public record.
Once you distribute that, it is.
Jana:
Okay. Okay. So I could write something like ask Nathan about this so. And that's. Yep. That's right.
Nathan:
And you're the only one that will see that. I mean, it's it's the same basic PDF functionality. It takes a little bit getting used to. But you know just click take a note wherever you want to take a note and close down. And that's really, kind of, the meat of it.
Describer:
On Screen.
Agenda showing with Table of Contents showing on the left. Nathan describes.
Nathan:
As you go through the agenda, like I said, it's kind of self-guided, but, you know, when we get to a specific, agenda item and finance items, you just click on that, it'll go right to that point in the package, the packet. It does create a common numbering system across all the packets. So kind of like I've just been doing manually.
That's the little two in there as the packet page number. The number of page one would be the table of contents in this case. So we'll still have those to reference. This also generates a PDF agenda, and a PDF of the full board packet. The PDF, the PDFs they create are actually really they're fairly intelligent.
So the table of contents gets carried over. It's a lot more navigable than the ones that I was doing by hand. And if you want to download those, that's just back on this, like, kind of meeting screen.
Describer:
On Screen.
A meeting Screen with Details Agenda and Analytics tabs and many other pages. It shows the invitations, access to controls and resources. A pop-up for downloads appears. Nathan describes.
Nathan:
And that's where you'll see this, like downloads. It'll give you a list of the things you want to download or just download a PDF.
And that's all I did to send you guys the agenda. I just downloaded it from here and then send it out.
Jason:
Nice. It looks pretty simple.
Tera:
And so now when you're trying to make last minute changes and there's a difference between what we had printed and what we have, we don’t need to print anymore and there won’t be anymore and just.... Right. Exactly.
Nathan:
The versions that we build in here will just be the same. And if somebody makes a change, it makes a change for everyone.
For us that are generating the packet, we can like, you know, actively edit documents so you can upload a word document in Microsoft 365 integrated so we can like, you know, edit PDF well edit word documents, edit, do some basic editing PDFs, publish and post all of that. We have kind of a lot of review and control over what and when things go out.
So it's been it's been it was a little tricky getting it set up. But once we got everything up and running,
Jana:
Can we get away from printing everything?
Nathan:
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
So that, is all I had on that, if you guys, you know, in between meetings, want to take some time, play with it. Let me know if any questions come up. Oh, that was the other thing. So there's also, from this home page. So, like I said, it'll open to this meeting page. You can go to the home page.
Describer:
On screen. The Home Page. Meeting in Progress, Upcoming For Your Organization sections, Announcement section Awaiting response section. Nathan describes.
Nathan:
There is like a little welcome message down here. And then I left the, these are the ones that were recommended by On board. These are their own support video. So if you take a few minutes or if you'd like to, I mean, go through, take a few minutes, watch these. Kind of like videos or walk through some of the functionality.
And if anybody really wants to, there's about a 12 hour class that is associated with this, and I am happy to say that I am On board certified. I even got a little certificate I can print off. But so far it's been it's been great. It's it's going to save me a ton of time in generating meeting packets, getting the agendas pulled together.
It's really modular. Pretty easy to use.
Jason:
Looks good.
Nathan:
All right, so with that, that's all I've got going on. Scroll down on the agenda. I'm ready for you.
Jason:
All right. Sounds good. Anybody else have any questions regarding this next. All right. Hearing none. We'll go ahead and close out. Item two the On board navigation. And we'll move on to item number three with Eric will review monthly claims for payments made from November 14th, 2025 to January 13th, 2026.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metropolitan District
Disbursements Summary
For the Period November 14, 2025 - January 13, 2026
PRESENTED FOR REVIEW
CHECKS - 29450 through 29523
Voucher Checks - November 14, 2025 - January 13, 2026 $2,087,051.00
One-Time Checks - November 14, 2025 - January 13, 2026 $713.20
TOTAL CHECKS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW $2,087,764.20
ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS
November 14, 2025 - January 13, 2026 $577,898.53
TOTAL ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS PRESENTED FOR REVIEW $577,898.53
Total Payments Presented for Review $2,665,662.73
Financial Director Eric Harris:
Good evening board. In front of you, starting on page page three. Bear with me. As I get into this new system, we have, approximately $2,665,000 claims and payments. This is approximately two months of payments, including a debt service payment that the district made on December 1st. And, a several capital, capital expenses.
I just would like to quickly review and alert you, this evening, in one that was, out of budget. I do want to discuss, starting on page five.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metro District - Bank Register Report - UMB Bank
The 4th transactions of more than 50 shown.
29453 Accounts Payable Computer Check 11/26/2025 CGRS Inc $0.00 $138,047.68 ($174,882.68) 11/26/2025 Outstanding. Eric explains.
Eric:
We did receive, and this is the fourth transaction, on this on this page, check number 29 453 for CGS. This was for $138,000, approximately.
And that was for pay apps 2 - 4 for the lift station project out of. We were working with Nathan. Nathan has been working with the contractor to get those in before the end of the year. So just wanted to make you aware of that. So we just have some we have to keep reaching out to contractors oftentimes just to get those pay applications.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metro District - Bank Register Report - UMB Bank
29491 Accounts Payable Computer Check 12/19/2025 City of Castle Pines $0.00 $518,786.09 ($1,184,308.55) 12/19/2025 Outstanding. Eric explains.
Eric:
And then, going down. And I can references that you need to look at, the city of Castle Pines, the bottom third of this list that that includes pay application five and six and a revision on number three for approximately $519,000. And so we have been carrying on accrual on our books, and you have seen that in the financial statements.
So we try to get those quarterly, at least from the city of Castle Pines. So there's a pretty significant work to get those all filtered and, you know, calculated. And so, we do a little bit of work on our side just to make sure, especially with the roundabout changes and things of that nature, everything's, prorated.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metro District - Bank Register Report - UMB Bank
9493 Accounts Payable Computer Check 12/19/2025 Colorado Special Districts $0.00 $125,755.00 ($1,316,726.05) 12/19/2025 Outstanding. Eric explains.
Eric:
And then, Kennedy Jenks, of course, reviews those. Two items down from that. It's listed to Colorado Special districts for $126,000, approximately. That was the 2026 insurance premium for the district. I worked with Nathan. We went through our updated insurance questionnaire, with the agent, in November. It is significantly higher than what we had in our budget for this year, which was $85,000.
We were expecting, more or less a cut in our premium because we thought as we were moving land off of the district that, you know, obviously we have risk reward associated with that and cost savings. We did have an approximately a 10% premium increase associated with that. So, we'll keep taking a look at that. We did receive the invoice near the end of December and had to pay that check, to retain coverage for this year.
So we did that issuing that check. however, we're going to continue to investigate if we can lower that as well in some means or fashions. But this is, it is a fairly large payment. That was, a little bit unexpected considering where we were budgeting as well.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metro District - Bank Register Report - UMB Bank (Continued)
29519 Accounts Payable Computer Check 12/19/2025 T Lowell Construction Inc $0.00 $405,455.39 ($2,084,782.81) 12/19/2025 Outstanding. Eric explains.
Eric:
And then, moving on to page six. You have to t Lowell Construction at the bottom of that page for $406,000, approximately.
That was for, lift station scope A. So just some costs coming in associated with the project, with the contract that has been, awarded. So those costs are in for, the 2025 budget year, and we're in budget as well. Outside that, everything else, was coming in as planned, which is, a little bit larger, obviously, for this batch of, claims, just, a couple of rounds of, payroll, debt service payment as well.
So you'll see all this on the report. Are there any questions?
Jana:
I do have just quick questions. Just for the high ticket items. What do we pay? Why do we pay Colorado special districts? What is that? What are we paying them for?
Eric:
That is for the insurance premium.
Jana:
That's what. I'm sorry. Then that wasn't the one I meant.
Okay. no. Is it c. Is that one that we just talked about, too?
Eric:
Yes. That was a fourth one down.
Jana:
In the city of Castle Pine. Sorry, I'm trying to do that. I apologize. The city of Castle Pines, that one is just a transfer then?
Eric:
No, that is for the Monarch project.
Jana:
Oh, that. That's our portion of.
Yes. Okay. And I apologize, Eric, I know, no problem. I'm doing two things at once. Okay? No other questions for me then.
Jason:
Okay. Hearing no other questions, we'll go ahead and close item A and we'll move to item B and review the updated district chart of accounts for 2026.
Eric:
And I will only spend a couple seconds on this. As you all know, I always like to come and bring you just a little bit of accounting and finance, information to you as a board.
Molly and myself are implementing several new, changes, to the district's accounting system. amongst that is a new structure, that will allow us to, in the future, create automated financial statements as well. So basically save on a lot of costs and time associated with the district. So if you come from a larger organization, it's kind of like cost profit centers, some of those majors as well.
So implementing divisions within the structure. And then we're also implementing project codes as well. So we'll be able to track costs not only on a budgetary basis, but you know, for example, the lift station projects on a cumulative basis as it stretches over multiple years. So and it's a simplified, accounting structure, but we will be able to drill down to the exact same level that we have, within the district's accounting system to date.
So just wanted to share that with the board.
Tera:
What's, what's SCADA in operation support?
Nathan:
SCADA is serial communications and data acquisition. So that is the, systems that make our water treatment plant lift stations talk to each other, and radios, control systems stuff.
Jason:
How much longer we collecting lottery funds?
Eric:
We are going at least another year. It's a pass through obviously within our budget. until the service plan is fully submitted. But then we have to catch it with, compliance with the city as well. So it's, at least one more year. Yes.
Jason:
Okay. Anybody else have any other questions? All right. Hearing none. Thank you Eric. We'll go ahead and close out finance items and, then we'll move on to item four, the legal items, and begin with the, legal status reports.
Legal Counsel Paul Polito, Esq.:
Good evening everybody. The legal status report is in the packet. If anybody does have any questions on it, I'm happy to field them.
Jana:
Is there anything you want to draw attention to on it?
Paul:
I'm working on the service plan amendment right now. That's my highest priority. The. It's a big lift.
Describer:
On screen.
TO: Castle Pines North Metropolitan District
FROM: Seter, Vander Wall & Mielke, P.C., Paul Polito, Esq. and Kim J. Seter, Esq.
DATE: January 16, 2026
RE: Legal Status Report for the January 19, 2026 Work Session
UPDATE REPORTS ON MATTERS IN PROCESS
MATTER: SERVICE PLAN AMENDMENT
Status: The intergovernmental agreements with the City requires CPN to amend its service
plan to eliminate Park and Recreation and Stormwater services. Now that the
Property transfers are near completion, counsel is drafting the Amended and
Restated Service Plan and related petition for submission to the City of Castle
Pines.
Action: None required at this time.
MATTER: RAW WATER AGREEMENT – THE RIDGE GOLF COURSE
Status: CPNMD will be entering an agreement with The Ridge Golf Course regarding its
use of CPNMD raw water. Counsel has reviewed the agreement and amended
terms, including terms to limit the delivery of water when not reasonably available,
clarify the rate structure, and clarify the delivery point of the water. District
Manager, Finance Director, and counsel will be attending a meeting with
representatives from the Ridge, at the Ridge’s request, to discuss water capacity
concerns.
Action: None required at this time.
Paul:
The goal is to get it to you by my internal goals, to get it to you by, the January meeting. It may be February at the latest, but that's, that's the biggest item right now.
I'm also, going through the rules and regulations as well, but the the service plan amendment is a little more pressing. So it's sort of risen to the top. Otherwise, nothing else here that I think is really worth drawing your attention to. But happy to answer any questions before we go on to the minutes.
Describer:
On screen.
Castle Pines North Metropolitan District
Legal Status Report
January 19, 2025 Work Session
Page 2 of 4
4926-2737-6757, v. 1
MATTER: HIDDEN POINTE METRO DISTRICT INCLUSION
Status: Hidden Point Metropolitan District (HPMD) Board had originally advised Mr.
Travis that it wants to move forward with an election regarding inclusion at its
regular election in May, 2025. A preliminary inclusion agreement was drafted and
counsel revised the preliminary inclusion agreement based on discussions with
HPMD’s district manager. Counsel provided the draft agreement to HPMD’s
district manager for review. HPMD responded on February 16, 2025, with
proposed revisions. Counsel discussed inclusion terms with Hidden Point
representatives on March 11, 2025. To date, Hidden Pointe has not accepted the
terms of the agreement or held a meeting to vote on same. Counsel sent
correspondence to Hidden Pointe representatives on September 12, 2025, sending
a slightly revised agreement to remove the request of any outstanding fees from
Hidden Pointe. Hidden Pointe’s district manager acknowledged receipt and will be
in touch to discuss with counsel. Counsel will present the inclusion agreement for
CPNMD board approval following Hidden Point’s authorization of the agreement.
Action: None required.
MATTER: RESEARCH RE RECOURSE FOR WELL FAILURES
Status: The District had encountered multiple well failures at District wells A1 and A2.
District counsel reviewed all pertinent Layne agreements and met with the District
Manager to discuss potential recourse. Layne’s agreements all possess an identical
Guarantee and Liability clause, providing a 12-month warranty on labor supplied
under the contract, and passes on any warranties provided by the manufacturers of
materials or equipment furnished under the contract.
A third-party inspection report was ultimately indeterminate as to the source of the
failures, but presented suspicions that the well shafts used for the effected sites were used shafts. The company responsible for installation has agreed to cover the cost of replacement of the failed well shafts. However, in an abundance of caution,
counsel has requested the details of the manufacturer’s warranty from Layne
representatives. Counsel has followed up with Layne representatives multiple times
and was directed to their Layne’s counsel. Counsel has requested warranty
information from Layne’s counsel and will file any required document with Layne
to reserve the District’s rights.
Action: None required.
Board Member Director Leah Enquist:
I was just looking through the Hidden Point Inclusion. What are our next steps there?
Paul:
Hidden point. We're still waiting for them to approve the agreement. I did reach out to the district manager, who informed me that their legal counsel is reviewing it now. Yeah. So at this point, we're just. We're still waiting to hear back from them.
They've, you know, I've touched base a number of times, and they're they're always responsive. They acknowledge receipt, but they're just going through whatever they're going through internally. And I'm not completely sure. But I continue to, to ping them. And I think we should be able to get this done relatively soon, but it does depend on them.
Any other questions from the board about the legal status report?
Leah:
I was just going through the research around the recourse for the, well, failures. I don't know. Curious as to your thoughts on from a legal standpoint where we might end up.
Nathan:
Well, so one, the kind of the key note on that is that, especially for that last round, Layne actually did step up and cover all of the costs.
So there's really no need for us to take additional recourse today. Even though the manufacturer declined the warranty, I think they ended up offering Layne like a 5%, or 10% on new disc or discount on the new equipment we bought. Layne covered the covered the cost.
Paul:
So this is very much a belt and suspenders play. We probably won't need it, but I'm just following through in case.
Layne doesn't at the end of the day. So it's, you know, legally, I don't think it's even going to go there with the manufacturer. Because practically it's getting taken care of but... Equipment, equipment installed. Yeah, yeah, some. Yeah. So it's it's almost a moot point at this point. But nevertheless, if anything comes up, we will be ready.
Leah:
Do we know, like, if if they.
Suspect. Suspect that it was a used shaft. I mean, are they going to continue to use that manufacturer?
Nathan:
So they do suspect that it was a used shaft. And no, we're not going to continue to use that manufacturer. We were able to at least Layne was able to get with a relatively high degree of confidence that the new equipment wasn't used.
But yeah, they're it's not a manufacturer will be returning to for those driveshafts.
Paul:
Any other questions from the board before we move on to the minutes?
Jason:
I think we can move on.
Paul:
Okay. Very good. You do have the minutes in the packet. We also realize, well, Michelle, a paralegal, realized that, we did have some special minutes from January of 2025. I'll be submitting those for review. They they were never formally approved.
We'll get those done. at the next board meeting, I'll. They'll be in the packet.
Describer:
On screen.
CASTLE PINES NORTH METROPOLITAN DISTRICT
WORK SESSION MINUTES
November 17, 2025 – 5:30 p.m.
HELD: Monday, November 17, 2025, at 5:30 p.m. at 7404 Yorkshire Drive,
Castle Pines, CO 80108.
ATTENDEES: Directors Jason Blanckaert, James Mulvey, Tera Radloff, Jana Krell,
and Leah Enquist were present. Also present were: Eric Harris,
Elevated Clarity; Nathan Travis, District Manager; Erik Helgeson,
Bartle & Wells (via Zoom); Kim Seter, Seter, Vander Wall & Mielke,
P.C. (via Zoom); Bryn Webster and Chuck Montera, Sigler
Communications; Lisa Schwien, Kennedy Jenks (via Zoom); and Will
Parker, Semocor, Inc.
CONFLICTS: None.
QUORUM: Present.
CALL MEETING TO ORDER: The Work Session was called to order at 5:30 p.m.
FINANCE
Review: Monthly Claims for Payments Made from October 16, 2025, to November 13, 2025
Finance Director Eric Harris reviewed the monthly disbursements totaling $1,255,195.94. Mr. Harris highlighted a payment to Core Electric of approximately $112,000, noting that he is working with District Manager Nathan Travis to analyze the rate structure and high voltage utility costs. He also noted a check to the City of Castle Pines for approximately $529,000 related to the Monarch Boulevard project, a final payment to Community Resource Services for billing services, and payments to Kennedy Jenks and Myers and Sons for capital projects.
Director Mulvey asked for clarification on the Core Electric payment, and Mr. Harris and Mr. Travis confirmed it covers total electric costs for all facilities, specifically high voltage utilities driven by the wells and seasonality.
Regional Rate Survey Presentation
Erik Helgeson of Bartle & Wells presented the benchmarking survey results, which
compared the District’s costs to neighboring agencies, including Pinery Water and
Wastewater District, the Town of Castle Rock, and Roxborough Water and Sanitation
Page 25. Paul explains.
Paul:
But as far as these minutes, within this packet, if anybody has any comments or suggested changes, I am happy to happy to make those.
Nathan:
And, the January minutes that were missing were for the, emergency meeting that we had when we brought Elevated Clarity On board.
Paul:
Yeah. Yeah.
So they're not going to be very long. But, you know, we do need to get those approved.
Jana:
I don't remember who elevated clarity was? Eric. Oh! Just say Eric.
Jason:
All right. Any questions regarding the minutes? Hearing none. Thank you. We can close out the legal items and, move on to, item five. District manager items.
Nathan:
All right. So I don't have a full expenditure request in here for this. This is going back to the, access control system. The keycard system that we wanted to put in at the treatment plant.
Describer:
On screen. Page 36. An Invoice from First Rate Fence & Access Control 795 E Kiowa Ave Unit 234 Elizabeth, CO 80107-5011 +17204584127 info@firstratefence.com www.firstratefence.com INVOICE # 2258 TOTAL DUE $56,605.92. Nathan Explains.
Nathan:
I don't really have anything super formal planned. But as promised, Logan Smith is here. He's the owner of First Rate fence repair. The board had some specific questions just about the system that we were going to implement some more technical stuff. Know Jason had one about. I don't remember if there are inside something. Something guards.
Yeah. It was it was a minute ago. Yeah. And so kind of a refresher or just an opportunity to ask him any questions. Still kind of in the same boat in terms of, like, looking for other vendors, kind of the same. And non-response that we've been getting. I don't know why these things are so hard to so hard to get.
And then I'll also, circle back around with Director Mulvey. I know he had some specific technical questions. But then he wasn't able to make the meeting.
Tera:
Well, I think one of the questions was just if this was some requirements that we have. Did you was this a response to a proposal with requirements in there? I mean, it seems I think we were pretty surprised would be a great word at the cost.
And so I wasn't sure, like, you know, they have the story about why the wrench that went up to the space station was so expensive because of the specs. And I don't know if we had specs that you were responding to. Or maybe you could give us a little background on that,
Logan Smith, First Rate Fence & Access Control:
Which button is it at the microphone. Yes.
Yeah, sure. So no, I didn't have, didn't have a scope to go off of here. This was, just asked to provide some sort of an access control system. So that we can monitor who's in and out of facility when. And that's pretty much the the extent.
Nathan:
That's all that it was. I'll leave this on. It was the result of like a sidewalk, which is what we had done previously with vendors that we got through there.
You know, developing a formal scope is something that we could certainly do. We that we would have Kennedy Jenks do that as part of the water treatment plant project. That's that's definitely, definitely a step that we could take.
Leah:
My primary question is, what is driving the cost? Is it, labor? Is it, products that you'll be installing?
Mix of both. But just understanding what's what's the primary driver of the cost.
Logan:
So there's a there's a lot of equipment and obviously labor always drives helps around the cost. So what we'd be doing and you want to give you sort of a breakdown of what's in the scope. Okay. So, I'll give you some stuff you probably don't care about too, but we're going to outfit any doors that don't have closures with closures, obviously, with the door closed behind, whoever's using them.
We're going to will install grade one electrified lever latches for all of the doors that we're putting the system on. So those will have a store.
Tera:
What does that do? What's that? What does that mean?
Logan:
So grade one is just is is kind of a tamper resistant. The, the, the ruggedness of the of the of the product. So, so the doors that we're going to outfit will have, we'll have reader of some kind.
The bid right now has a 26 bit Wiggins system, so it's not the most secure, but it's certainly better than what you've currently got. So when a credentials prevented or presented to the door, the there will be a momentary electrification or, electric signal sent to the lever Lance, which will let you open the door. And then from the other side of the door, you know, the storeroom function means that, you always have a free exit, so nobody can be trapped inside the building.
So credential to get in, free exit to get out of, rooms and, exterior doors. We'll put in a smart reader, a smart video intercom for the gate. That, you know, leads into the facility, the front gate. And so that'll that'll give you, you know, video, video, record, video log of anybody that's coming and going.
Those are stored on, on the cloud. So you'll have basically a, a dashboard that'll give you access to all these things. So with all of that, you'll be able to go in and, add and remove people that will, you can create, access to, you know, separate access to any one of those things and create groups, for people so you can limit access and give temporary access and you can do it all at a whim or, or Nathan can.
So the and like I say that right now we're doing that we've, we've got in the quote the 26 bit carts. If you guys wanted to upgrade your security and make it more secure, we could do that too. I mean, there there are a lot of different ways that we can go with the system, but I don't I'm not having a scope.
This is where we landed.
Leah:
Can we get like a line by line breakdown?
Logan:
So I don't we don't do line item bids. We do lumps bids. What are you wanting to know The price of of, of every piece of equipment. What exactly?
Leah:
Well you didn't answer my question, which is what is primarily driving the cost. So, like, I would like wanting to see those line by line, but then also, to me, it helps make more informed decisions.
So, like if something seems on the higher end, we can isolate it and say, okay, this seems on the higher end, do we have any other options? Or when you're talking about the 24 bit and we can upgrade it. I don't even know what it costs for the 24 bit. So when we talk about upgrading, like I don't I don't it's hard for me to do that.
Cost benefit analysis. Sure. And then my second question is, have have you done this for other water treatment plants before?
Logan:
Not for water treatments right no.
Jason:
Nathan, I don't think that I would want this information in the packet. Vulnerabilities that at our water treatment plant that, maybe if we had a map where we could see a map of the location where we could see where these things are being implemented.
Nathan:
Okay. I could put something, a visual simple thing together.
Jana:
I see the word subscription, which I assume that means where the videos are being stored.
I mean, what is this? What does a subscription cost going month forward? I don't know, things things like that. No. It is just really high. That's the concern. And I think what Leah is trying to to say is we'd like to make sure we're getting a good cost and we're not paying you, you know, let's say $5,000 for the equipment and $50,000 for your labor.
You know, we have nothing to go off of other than once. And it's we've never had to pay for something like this before, so we don't have a comparison. Okay. That's all.
Nathan:
That sounds like it would make everybody's lives a little bit easier if I get can. And really, I was just trying to save a little cost on the engineering side.
But go ahead and have Kennedy tanks build the scope, so that we can kind of track that pricing a little bit more thoroughly. And then I can see...
Jana:
I also I'm not having any experience in this. I also don't know if this is adequate like to say upgrade, I think I don't I don't know, I don't have any.
Like what does another jurisdiction do. Are we being reckless and this is too low or we being crazy. And this is extreme so.
Leah:
That's where I was going Jana, with asking if he, if you had done this for other metro districts just to kind of understand, like where we were against, other experienced standards. Yeah.
Jana:
And I don't want to be wasteful with money and pay K.J. to do an engineering thing if maybe, I mean, or to scope it out.
I mean, how much effort is that from them?
Nathan:
I don't know I can, I can ask.
Jana:
I mean, maybe that would give us a better idea of what this what we need, since we have nothing else to compare it to. I mean, it's this like second quote concept of I have no idea. This could be a great price, but with you being the only person sitting here I no idea if this is a great price or taking advantage of us.
Logan:
That's fair.
Nathan:
Sounds good.
Leah:
So to go back to my original question. Okay. What? And I know this is a lump sum cost, but is it pretty evenly split between equipment and labor. Is is one higher than the other.
Logan:
So the equipment this is, is is probably more than 50% of the quote. Okay. It's not it's not inexpensive hardware. Yeah.
Leah:
Yeah. That makes sense.
Logan:
Yeah. I mean we've got we've got, you know, several brains that all, that control, you know, every door is going to have, a way to access, you know, the cloud to, to pass, you know, pass credential on. Get it, get it, authenticated and send it back so that we can send the code or, excuse me, send the notice of the door open.
Right. So you've got you got brain, you got power supply units, you've got all the door hardware we're putting in, you know, power transfer hinges so that we don't just have, you know, wires and door loops that are easily accessible. So the, the system, the system that's, that's quoted here, I think is a is a is a good system.
And I think it's a great system, but the, the, your weak link in your system is going to be your credential. What type of credential do you want to present. So when you guys got to look at, other options from other vendors or, or if you want to have us re quote it, you know, there's 26 bit cards can be easily copied, right?
Duplicated. But you can, you know, we can do an encrypted system where the card and the card communicates with the reader and then it's and then, you know, decrypts, decrypts information and sends it on. We can do a Bluetooth, where your credential is effectively your phone. Right. Which is a lot less likely to be lost than a card nobody wants to sit right with.
And so, I mean, there's a lot of different options. The thing that the thing that's really cool about access control is there's a a million ways that you can solve a problem. But the difficult thing about it is that there's a million ways that you can solve the problem, so that without a scope, it's difficult to...
Jason:
Could you give us a good, better, best scenario?
Logan:
Yeah. So I'd say, so the 26 bit that we're looking at now is certainly better than what you have currently. And but we, we can call it good. I think the it so sometimes, sometimes the better in the best is is kind of decided on how, how you implement the credential, tracking. Right. So if we've got loads of contractors and I know you have just a ton of contractors all the time, so if you've got if you have to pass out a physical credential like a card, then your odds of losing that card, somebody's getting a hold of that card that you don't want to have access to the card,
Are. You know, can go up, right. Because you got to track all those things. Your expense goes up, too, because if you've got a if you have to revoke access and you can't get the card back and you have to replace the card and and cards are cards are difficult because they're specific to your system. Even with the 26 bit, you know they've got facility codes.
You can't just go and buy this card off the shelf and then assign it to the system and have and have access. The Bluetooth is great because, you know, that uses a rolling code. So the code, you know, if you somehow intercept the signal, that's, if you, if you, if you get access to that handshake that's happening, you're not. You know, you can't just reuse that information for it's, I mean, it's there's a lot of different things that you can do.
I would say that your good, better, best is you've got good here is decent. And better best is going to be an encrypted card or your Bluetooth. And it just depends on what works best for you guys, because both of those are great options. But, you know, do you want to have physical credentials out there that you have to get back or repurchase, or do you want to just be able to and subtract people at will and then, you know, you need to consider things like if we use the if we use the phone as a credential or if there's no cell service or, if you lose your phone, if you get water
Damage, if the battery's dead, that can be that can be an issue.
Jason:
But but if somebody loses their phone, you could just take them out of the system and then they can re-add and choosing a new phone.
Logan:
Exactly. And the other the other benefit to a phone is you generally have other other factors of authentication too, right? Like you're not you can't open my phone because it's got a it's, you know, it's tied to my face or my Pin or so.
So I like the Bluetooth. I think it's a good option. You don't have to physically contact anything. You can leave it in your pocket and, you know, do a gesture to the to the smart reader and have it, you know, grant you access. So it's it's it's it's how you want your problem fixed I think is a big
Jason:
I think securing our infrastructure is of the utmost importance.
And I actually would like to see the quote with the Bluetooth and with this, 26 bit reader also.
Tera:
Is as Bluetooth. Is that your best? Is Bluetooth the best?
Loga:
So it's it's it's really great. It's a great it's a really great option. But but I, I wouldn't say that it's the I wouldn't say it's the best. It really it depends on how you guys want to use the system.
So the encrypted cards are really good. It's there are pros and cons to both, but they're both really great options. The Bluetooth is very secure. It's, you know, it's encrypted. It's real in code. It's, multi-factor authentication. It's it's the direction I would probably lean. But if you don't want to rely on somebody having their phone and, and all the other things that we talked about, then the card's good.
Jason:
The card's encrypted cards are probably even more expensive than the 26 bit cards, and that people are losing them, that's another expense.
Leah:
But that was going to be my question. If someone loses a card, like, how long does it take to get a new one? What's the order of magnitude of cost for that?
Logan:
Sure. Yeah. So so I hear your question and I'm, you know, I'm dodging your question, right, a lot.
Oh, and yeah, absolutely. I try to be very open and honest as, as much as I can, but, so, so, so generally when, when, when Nathan and I talked about this system initially when we, when we looked at the property, you know, I'm going to ask you how many, how many people do you want to provide a credential to credentials to.
And you'll tell me 30 and I'll say, let's get you 50 cards right, because you generally with cards, you have to buy them in a certain package amount anyway. And so if we get you, if we get you X number of extra cards, then you always have something on hand that you can assign them. And, and you can reorder cards at that point if you need to.
But but again with the Bluetooth you don't have to do any of that.
Jana:
And I know you said you hadn't done, water treatment. Have you done other jurisdictional local government.
Logan:
So so you I think I think maybe the question that you're asking is critical infrastructure. And if we done other critical infrastructure and the honest answer is no, so we do we do a lot of access control systems.
But this is and I'd say that access is, you know, obviously important to everyone. But I understand that you guys are looking at it through a different lens here with the critical infrastructure. But, but we can, it's it's very easy to manipulate the scope to make it fit your, you know, your and you need which is what we're talking, I guess what we're talking about so far.
Leah:
Nathan, have you followed up with some of our other metro districts to see number one, if they if they've done this number to like vendors they've used get pulse on cost.
Nathan:
So the the kind of the larger providers in the area Castle at Parker Highlands Ranch, they all have staff in-house that manage these systems for them. That's under their...
So have you talked about SCADA briefly earlier? That's kind of sits under their SCADA divisions. The city was able to provide us with the contact for the person that they used to do, like the town, their offices, they came through, toured and then fell off the face of the earth. The village at Council Pines uses serialized keys.
So they've got, like physical locks that have some sort of security feature on them. I don't have a super high degree of confidence in those. We have special high security keys for this building, and I was able to, you know, make a spare on the fly with a key machine at Walmart. And so that was, you know, part of the part of the issue there too.
And I just haven't really found the Pinery. A lot of the other, like smaller one Pinery didn't get back to me. Trying to think Roxboro uses traditional keys, so there's not a lot of. I just haven't been able to find that like that great comp. And it's interesting in terms of like security space because like our, you know, the company, that handles our fire control and fire system security, security central.
They don't deal with these systems. We've used American security for quite a while for all of, like, our site and video surveillance and and building security. They don't deal with. They don't deal with these systems. It's it's very specialized. It seems so I keep I can keep working on that front. And I can also kind of just floated through Kennedy Jenks to see if they've had this come up with any of their facilities, and security system control stuff.
Tera:
So, so for me, you know, having somebody do a scope on this isn't a waste of money. This, again, is critical infrastructure. The safety of the water that we drink is there's nothing more important than that. I like, the system that seems less antiquated. I mean, Bluetooth to me makes a lot more sense, than trying to keep up with cards and the immediacy.
And to your point, people are not likely to lose their phones or leave them behind. And if they do, there's probably that's probably a red flag their issue. But, I certainly would I don't...
Jana:
I second that, I don't I think it's worth their time to scope it just to make sure if we're going to spend the time that we're doing right, right.
Instead of just saying, well, here's the number.
Tera:
Yeah, I think it's easier for responders. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it would be...
Jana:
Kennedy Jenks does Cisco.
Leah:
No. Right. Sounds like you would help him. Right? Yeah. Yeah,
Tera:
Exactly. It would be easier for you to respond if you knew what it was.
Nathan:
Yeah. And ultimately, ultimately, I'd like to see the system, you know, extend beyond the treatment plant to, you know, not much application of, well sites, but certainly like interconnect pump station, booster pump stations, lift stations should all have like a, some level of, you know, security.
And if we can get those all under one system, I think that, you know, and once we start looking at the system wide application, the scope would be and this this is necessary at that point to.
Logan:
This is easily scalable for all your lift stations and all that stuff too.
Jana:
And Logan, I hope you don't feel like we're putting you on the defense.
We just have to make sure that we're asking the right ...
Logan:
Well it's your job to put me on defense.
Jana:
I was going to say you just have to spend money responsibly. So. Okay. Thank you for understanding.
Logan:
Yeah. It doesn't hurt my feelings.
Nathan:
Good. Thank you. Logan, that was very helpful.
Jason:
Oh, one other quick question. Jana, touched on this, subscription that we're going to be required to use.
How much storage is it like, in terms of, like, are we going to be able to keep a month's worth of video or a year's worth of video? And, how much is the subscription?
Logan:
Yeah, so so the subscription part of the reason that we, that we don't always include the subscription or recently we've, we've taken that out.
So, so so for starters, you have a year included in this, right. It's it's already in there. They they have been recently changing their prices a lot. So we had a price hike at the beginning of the year this year. So it it changes a lot. And I, I'm happy to give you a, you know, we've got list prices too.
I can I can share that with you. It's easy peasy to do. Motion generation. Oh, yeah. So, so so we can you can do a 30 day storage for the video clips. So anytime, anytime anyone interacts with. So like, the entry for the gate that's going to have a video on it and it's and, and that's the only video that you'll have in the system currently is just the gate.
So they introduce. So anytime anyone interacts with it or it, it notices somebody coming by. It'll take a clip a clip of that interaction and it can store it for, you know, 30 days so that you can look back at it if you want to.
Jason:
Nathan, I don't know that that's enough either. I mean, what if somebody jumps the fence and, and we'd have nothing on the doors to see who's trying to.
Jimmy, the door's open.
Nathan:
We have the existing camera system covers all of the doors in the full exterior of the building, 365 degrees.
Jason:
Will we want to integrate all that together?
Nathan:
We could talk and see. I don't know what that was. Just adding the the gate camera to the existing security camera, DVR, hard drive. I don't know if it's something we don't know.
Tera:
And what's the storage on that? I mean, if we have to go after somebody because they broke into our plant and I don't know how much six months. Oh.
We better catch them quick and prosecute them quick.
Nathan:
Right. Yeah. So it's it's a rolling. It's just the storage. So if you need to download something. Yeah. ... Yeah.
Jason:
Okay. Any other questions.
Leah:
So I like that we said it was expensive. And then we just added to that. Yeah. Right.
Logan:
But it can be more expensive business.
Jason:
Before we drive ourselves into bankruptcy.
All right. We can go ahead and close down this topic then. And, adjourn the meeting. Oh, wait. There's, you have one more thing.
Paul:
One more thing. Nathan real quick. If I could just make one quick note here. I know there was a mention at the beginning of this is the potential concern. Security of this being in the packet.
We can remove this from the packet. If it's the director's desire. This is easily...
Jason:
I don't think that we want to put this our vulnerabilities out there.
Jana:
Can we do this. Just this part offline.
Paul:
This is already a delegated task, to either me or Nathan. So we don't even need board action on this. Okay. If I get some assent from you.
All right. Now that you want this removed, I can do it. Or Nathan can...
Jana:
Every OK with that? I think Jason has a good idea. I think It's a good idea.
Paul:
Yeah, yeah. So, Nathan, let's just make sure this is removed whenever it's put on the website. Or just. Even if it is just. You can remove it now.
Nathan:
And then.
That that just reminds me On board does have functionality that we can use to, outside of executive session. But there's a way I can post documents that only the board can see that won't be included in the packet. So that's something I can I can make sure to leverage. But that's a a good observation because.
It's good to go.
Jason:
Thank you very much. Thanks, Logan. Your welcome.
Nathan:
So community center renovations. I met with Marcus Graves last week. He is the new parks, trails and open space manager for city of Castle Pines. And he's the project manager for the renovations that are going to be occurring in this space. So they've got a fairly short timeline. They're getting ready to bid in the next few weeks.
The long story short, construction will start in this building following in sometime in the couple weeks following our February board meeting. So they're going to start end of February, beginning of March. They have a pretty aggressive timeline in terms of how quickly they want to get it done. They're targeting four months. I expect somewhere between 4 to 6.
It's a pretty comprehensive demolition of everything inside of this building. So really, I just need, one to let the board know about that. There. We met and talked about, you know, staff bathroom accommodations, outages, kind of how to manage all of that stuff, making sure that our server doesn't lose power. You know, things of that nature.
And the bigger impact for the board meetings is that there's really not much of an option we have other than just move online while we're going through that, that duration. unless anybody else has a strong preference or a another idea.
Jason:
We can do Jana’s House.
Nathan:
Jana's house it is.
Jana:
Wondered if we if that makes sense, if we in person do we want to do the library online is fine with me.
I mean, we probably meet online all day long for work anyway, so it's become a normal thing. I think it's fine.
Tera:
We'll made it through Covid, doing council meetings and whatever. But and the library I think is it's hard. The reason why they're so interested in getting this done is really hard to get into. They book out really fast, and I think they're having trouble making sure that they get that meeting room for their meetings as part of it.
Yeah.
Jana:
Can you give us an overview of what this space would look, will look like when it's done? I mean,
Leah:
Well just the scope. Are they going to do outside, Like the wall is leaning.
Jana:
So, yeah, just high level. I'm interested in what will what will we be? What will we be coming back to?
Nathan:
So we can work outside. And in terms of the actual physical building, exterior paint, retaining walls, I guess there's some roof stuff.
They're not doing that in this scope. So they're aware of it. They know that it needs to happen. They are going to be moving the, parks, trails, open space, kind of like storage yard, fenced off area. They're going to be relocating that to a parcel of land that's actually in Lagae. It's kind of over by one of our lift stations.
It's a much better spot for good access. It's out of out of view of the road. It's it's a good spot. Other the south. Yeah. So past the second. If you're driving from here south on Lagae, there's a driveway after the second roundabout. And they'll be right there. So they've got, they've got access there and that's one of our lift stations.
So they're going to be moving all of that over there. And then they're going to, they're planning on extending the parking lot to, which is what it was designed for. So they'll have like, you know, paved area where that current construction yard is. And then, you know, getting the exterior building lighting, the parking lot lighting will kind of be part of all of that.
In terms of this space, it's a pretty comprehensive tear down. Basically everything that you can see right now, with the exception of that little office, will stay. All of this is getting demolished. The all the way back to the theater. Yep that little office will stay. Yeah. And so there's the upstairs conference room, the upstairs storage room.
All of that's going to go away. This media room goes away. The theater is going to get the floor demolished and it'll be leveled out. So the actual, like, permanent dioceses that they're going to install for our meetings and for council meetings will be, on this plane. So kind of at this level. But back where the theater room sits, so it'll be like an elevated.
And then they're, they're still working through some of the details in terms of like the, the media package that's going to go with that, like monitors, microphones, videos. The idea is that it's supposed to be relatively simple. Pushbutton to start your meeting, start your recording. They'll be taking this wall out. The kitchen's going to be expanded and remodeled.
They're going to be redoing both of the bathrooms, which was actually a pretty large portion of the scope. So those will get, torn out, renovated. And so the, the actual structure over here gets changed a little bit. They're still going to keep this space available for community rentals. And so to facilitate that, they're going to have a pocket wall that you can like slide out and like close off the diocese to leave this open for those rentals for and then they'll have access to the kitchen and the bathrooms.
And then kind of like a little bit of a, not quite a twin, but like our existing conference room, they're going to build another conference room back in this corner, with an independent kind of recording system. It's going to have some sound attenuation and it's going to be, you know, it'll be a reservable meeting room at its primary function as far as we're concerned, in the city concerned is, room for executive sessions.
Jana:
And can you remind me, what part did we do a cost share? No, we didn't. They just paid. Yep. It does sound like a lot to do that.
Nathan:
Yeah. It's aggressive. So they. Yeah. They said. Yeah. They said four, my guess it's probably closer to six all said and done.
Leah (off mic):
....
Nathan:
Correct. Yeah. Yeah.
Jason:
And they're not going to touch your business office back there?
Nathan:
Correct. Yeah. So this this little office, the conference room and everything past that door will be unchanged. We do have we may have some, I'll have to talk to Michael about it. We may have some minor expense. Just like shelving and stuff.
Because we've got to get all of this stuff that we have up in this storage room that's off of this room will all get moved. Downstairs.
Leah (Off-mic):
...
Nathan:
Yeah, we'll primarily be here. So they're going to provide, they're going to provide us with our own separate like, to the extent the restrooms out, we'll have our own, like, bathrooms. Then they'll give us notification for, you know, like water outages and stuff like that. I'll probably get, like, a deep rock or a water or a water dispenser to come in.
But for, I don't anticipate us being closed unless there's, like, a prolonged power outage would be primarily the thing that takes us out. And then even the HAVC system. So the everything past the storms expansion that was built, in the early 2000. So it has its own, its own electrical panel. We have a separate HVAC system that runs out of half of the building.
So that should help kind of facilitate this all getting demoed out. And then they're going to, you know, do their best to keep things separate, especially for dust and construction.
Jana:
I think that's exciting. Yeah.
Tera:
So are they filling in. Are they able to use that kind of sunken down in the theater room. Use that space for additional storage.
Nathan:
That's where yeah, we'll take that's where our storage replacement will be. So yeah, this theater like sinks down. That'll be a level floor and they will demo everything.
Tera:
And that's I just think it's because of they're just going to make it level like that. Seems like a waste of space because that's.
Nathan:
Yeah. So that's where that's what. We'll move everything upstairs, down.
I don't envy the person that has to move the mylar lay flat cabinets, but.
Jason:
All right. Questions?
Jana:
No but I have a comment. Good. I really like this study session layout so much more than that, I don't know, it just makes it more what I was going for, which is an opportunity to just kind of talk things through, so. Good job. Thank you.
Tera:
Yes, I like the new platform too.
Jason:
Yeah, the On board. All right. Well we will go ahead and close out this item and move to the final item which is to adjourn the meeting.
Thank you everyone. Great meeting.