April 24, 2023 Board Meeting
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Board Meeting Agenda
Monday, April 24, 2023, at 6:00 p.m.
7404 Yorkshire Drive, Castle Pines, CO 80108
I. Welcome. Call meeting to order. Pledge of Allegiance.
II. Roll call. Determination of quorum. Disclosure of potential conflicts.
III. Consider approving the April 24, 2023, board meeting agenda.
IV. Consider approving the board’s March 22, 2023, study session minutes.
V. Consider approving March 27, 2023, board meeting minutes.
VI. Public comment period. (Three-minute maximum per person).
VII. Parks, Trails & Open Space Manager's report.
VIII. Finance Director's report.
A. Consider approving claims for payment including check numbers 2278 -
27827, and electronic payments issued from March 24, 2023, through April
20, 2023.
B. Update and timeline regarding 2021 and 2022 Audits.
General Fund/Open Space Approve $517,456.89, Ratify $45,626.66 $ 563,083.55
Enterprise Funds Approve $1,073,990.66, Ratify $193,592.68, Totals $1,267,583.34
Electronic Payments (all funds) Approve $ —, Ratify $45,826.44, Totals $45,826.44
Total Expenditures Approve $1,591,447.55 Ratify $285,045.78, Totals $1,876,493.33
IX. Legal Counsel's report.
A. Executive session- Discussion regarding CPNMD pending legal action, and discussion regarding Employee compensation. No decisions will be made
during executive session, any necessary action will be taken following the executive session, during the public meeting.
B. Tentative
X. District Manager’s report
A. Consider approval of budget allocation for Conservation Program
B. Recognition of David Anderson’s career with CPNMD.
XI. Director’s Matters
XII. Adjourn
Board President Chuck Lowen:
It's a clock. And this is the cash prize. North Metro District board meeting of Monday, April 24th, 2023. I'd like to call the meeting to order and ask that you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
All:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Chuck:
Thank you very much. Quick roll call. Let me know that, you do or do not have any potential conflicts.
Board Member Director Jason Blankaert:
Jason Blackaert, Present. No conflicts.
Board Member Director Denise Crew:
Denise Crew Present, no conflicts.
Board Member Director Chris Lewis:
Chris Lewis Present. No conflicts.
Board Member Director Tera Radloff:
And Tera Radloff Present. No conflicts.
Chuck:
And I'm Chuck Lowen. I'm present, and I have no conflicts. I'd like to, have a motion approving the April 24th, 2023 board meeting agenda that we are now on.
Board Voting All Speak:
Can I hear a second? Second. Any discussion? Any discussion. All in favor say together I, I I. Any opposed? Motion passed. Item number four, approving the board's March 22nd study session minutes. I hopefully everybody's had an opportunity to review them fairly quick. Can I hear a motion.
Denise:
I'll make a motion to approve the study session minutes. We have a motion.
Chris:
Second, I seconded any discussion.
Board Voting All Speak:
All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries.
Chuck:
We're going to pass number, item Roman numeral five, and moved to the public. Comment period. Do we have anybody on zoom? Terrence, for the public comment period? No. There. You're good. Nathan.
District Manager Nathan Travis:
Yeah. I'm good. We don't have anybody present or signed up up front either. All right.
Chuck:
Hearing that we do not have anybody wishing to talk for the comment, period. Let's, close that out and move right to parks, trails and open space manager's report. David.
Operations Manager David Anderson:
Okay. you have it in front of you for the last time.
Chuck:
Oh, don't say that. Enjoy. Don't say that.
Denise:
I Think that's true.
David:
I just want to thank the district for allowing me to work here for the last 13 years.
It's been enjoyable, and I've learned a lot. And hopefully I've gave a lot back to them. And, we're moving on.
Chuck:
Well, David.
Thank you for your your loyalty in your time with the district. I'm sure we'll see just as much as you out there repairing sprinkler heads and digging more holes, that's probably true. So, it's not like we're losing you, but, times are changing.
Yep. And we certainly applaud you for your service. Thank you very much.
All Speak:
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Tera:
Thank you, David, for the service. I did have one quick question on your report. Well, I just noticed that on item number three, you said that you were repairing some major irrigation leaks that were found from last year blow out of the irrigation systems.
And I'm wondering if it was the same, contractors that blew out the systems that you're using or if, you know, we're using different, services going forward.
David:
No, we use this. It was us blowing it out last year. So Colin and I blew it out, and we just mark stuff that needs fix. That we don't get to through over the winter.
So when we start it back up, that's how we we repair it then.
Tera:
Well, thank you. And I know that, all of our stuff will continue to be well cared for as you take on your new role with the city? So Thank you.
David:
You're welcome.
Chris:
So, David, I do want to thank you. Also appreciate all that you've done.
And what is if I think earlier there it is 12.5 years. So thanks for all that you dedicated. I do think that, you have good things ahead of you. So, you know, good luck with that. Thank you. I do have questions on the pickle ball court. So where do we stand on that. I read this and it says we got to wait until it's, like, 50 degrees or so in the next five days.
So I guess they have a schedule.
David:
They have to the degrees at night have to be 50 degrees or above for five days in a row. Okay. And then then they can apply the plane material on top of the concrete. That's so it's just weather dependent. That's all it is. So okay. And they are they're ready to go whenever it happens.
Chris:
Is is the the surface the only thing left. Lighting the fencing and everything is all good to go?
David:
They don't have the nets up yet or, and stuff like that, but, everything else is ready to go.
Chris:
And then there was, asphalt comment. So that's also waiting. This one says that, asphalt plants weren't open.
David:
Yeah. It's basically the plant that they use as an open yet. So when that opens they'll get on that also.
Chris:
Okay. Thank you.
Chuck:
What, just your best guess estimate your last your last night here.
David:
The way the weather's going, I don't know. I don't know if May is going to be very nice.
David:
It's all weather dependent.
David:
It's all weather dependent.
Chuck:
But it could happen if. Yeah. Mid to late May. May. Yeah. Okay. I won't hold you to it again. Thanks. You're welcome. Appreciate you in your service. Any further comments for parks, trails and open space? I'm good.
Nathan:
Since we're already giving David accolades, I did have it later on the agenda, but with board approval, we can move on to my part for the evening.
I did just want to take a moment to recognize, everything that David has done during his time here has been, pretty monumental. Actually, when we went through this whole thing, we had an initial talks with David, who's going to be, like, even here in the office. And so, like, that made it honestly just kind of, like, more emotionally easier to handle.
And then I found out that they're, like, completely taking him out. So we're not going to be able to see him every day. But, that said, I have a I personally feel like I've accomplished, quite a few things in my a little bit more than ten years here with here with Castle plants, North Metro. One thing that I have never done in that period of time is beat David to work.
I don't know that. I don't know that anybody is that anybody has. There are countless times that he's coming to work at 4:00 am to drive the entire district, just to check in and make sure that the lighting is working properly, or drive around and make sure that the Christmas trees have been done. I can't count the number of times that I've driven past him and seeing him just like absolute be up to his elbows covered in dirt, fixing some irrigation repair that blew apart.
Including six days after you got 1 or 2 knees replaced. Both of them, Yeah. Less than a week after a double knee replacement. Like you cannot get this guy to stop working. I legitimately do not know if he is capable of saying the sentence. That can't be done. I'll figure it out. Seems to be his unofficial mantra.
No matter how great the task or challenge he has accomplished, of the thousands of thank you's he's earned. He always responds with, yeah, it wasn't that big of a deal. And I could spend hours listing his professional accomplishments. And as outstanding as those have been, his intangible contributions he's made to the to this organization outweigh those many, many times over as a staff.
To say that things have been tumultuous over the past few years may be a bit of an understatement. And I can say with absolute certainty that I wouldn't have made it through without his support and his friendship, his unmistakable laugh, his passion, his willingness to be someone I can vent to or get advice from and laugh with has been absolutely invaluable, and I can very much speak for anybody that's ever worked with him.
That he's a key contributor to making this staff feel far more like a family than it does just coworkers. I can tell you that no matter how much you appreciate David, myself included, it's not enough. More than anyone ever I've ever worked with, he will be missed. And so, David, I wish you good luck in your life beyond your time with CPNMD.
But I somehow doubt that you're going to need it. Instead, I urge that any organization that has the pleasure of working with you, not take your presence for granted. They'll be better off for having had you there. And so with that.
And then also take anybody out to dinner. Okay.
David:
Thank you so much.
Nathan:
That's what I had. Thank you guys. Thanks. Thank you.
Chuck:
You know, we we could cancel the, the park and open space and just keep David here. Is that a.
Nathan:
I'm 100% on board with it. The pictures until attorneys have torches for that'll. That'll come with that, I think. I think Kim actually just took a step toward the door when you mentioned that.
Chuck:
So, David, thank you very much, David. Congratulations and and good luck on your future. I know you'll they'll do fine. And I think the the city is the one that's really going to gain here. Hopefully they will stay in touch though. You can you can continue to come to the board meetings. Okay. Thank you. Nathan, thank you very much.
Well placed. Okay. Finance director's report. We have Sadie.
Sadie Whitworth, Accountant, Community Resource Services of Colorado (CRS):
I'm here.
Phyllis Brown, Director of Finance and Accounting Community Resource Services of Colorado (CRS):
Yeah we're here.
Chuck:
And Phyllis, okay. Yeah. Both of you. Go ahead Phyllis.
Phyllis:
Well, approved claims. You want to do that part first, and then I could do my finance directors report.
Sadie:
Oh, well. Go ahead.
Phyllis:
Well, Well. Well, yeah. Do you guys want to read the numbers?
Sadie:
Yes, please. My screen just went blank. I don't know why. Oh, wait. It's coming back.
I see, it's like your phone handle is green. oh. My apologies. I can see you now. Okay. .......My apologies. Please proceed without me doing this part this week or this month Phyllis.
Phyllis:
Okay. So do you want me to read the claims or you want to read the claims?
The general fund.
Sadie:
You go ahead.
Chuck:
I think we're good now. I think we're good.
Phyllis:
You want me to. Do you want me to read all those or. No.
Nathan:
Either one is fine, Sadie. We did. Because you're using the dial in number. We had to pin your image, so whichever one of you wants to go for it.
Phyllis:
Okay. General fund, open space. Approve 517,456.89. Ratify 45,626.66 for a total of 553,083.55. Enterprise funds approve 1,073,990.66. Ratify $193,592.68, for a total of $1,267,583.34.
Electronic payment. Ratify $45,805.44, and for total expenditures, approve 1,591,447.55. Ratify 285,045.78, for a total of 1,876,493.33.
Chuck:
I'd like to make a motion that we approve the claims for payment, including checks number (2278-27827) and electronic payments issued for March 24th, 2023 through April 20th, 2023. and including that, the Phyllis's review of the General Fund Enterprise fund and electronic payments made and total expenditures.
Do I hear a second? I'll second.
Denise:
I have a second.
Board Voting All Speak:
Any discussion? Hearing none. The motion passed. Thank you very much. So let's, get a call and call for a vote. All in favor, say I opposed. We'll hear from you. I, I I I any opposed? Not opposed. Motion passes. Thank you very much.
Chuck:
Anything further, Phyllis or Sadie?
Yep, page five is our report that, shows you, property taxes received, totaled $1.5 million. Just 46.43% of the total amount. And, to point out under the Parks and Rec, IGA, going forward and those taxes will be transferred over to the city of Castle Pines. The enterprise fund, the build water usage was 17.7 million gallons, a 5.5% increase over the prior year. Total,
We're up $930,000 from the prior year, and there were tap fees received for eight properties during the month and totaling, for revenues of $450,000. Any questions on that?
Chris:
Yes. And I don't know if this is for you For us or maybe Nathan. So we're up, over 900. Is that. Did I get to hear that? Like 900,000 gallons per year.
Phyllis:
Total usage is up. There were up. There were a lot of, happenings last year, if you remember, and that that was throughout the period. So that now you're getting the increase for the usage.
Chris:
Yeah. So no I'm trying to remember are those the properties behind King Super.
Nathan:
Yeah. Basically all the, all of the developments got in there.
So I mean, if we're talking total usage of 900,000 gallons over a period of several months over that many accounts, it's not a super significant increase. it's right in line with what we'd expect, you know, per home, per day. Multiply it out. Okay.
Phyllis:
And then I want to give you an update on the audit and the accounting.
We've been meeting with Rubin Brown. Andy and Chloe are the, two people we're working with at the current moment on the audit. So they're hot and heavy and getting through their test work. We provided, you know, everything they requested. They're still asking for additional documents as they go through their test work. I did tell, Andy that the board would like an update, so he sent me an email, to so that I could tell you where they are on their five to audit.
And they're saying, his comment and I'll just summarize these, said in April they were about 50% complete prior to the transition. And once they were able to get back into, doing the field work this this month, they've made significant, and, you know, they've done, significant amount of work and saying we've provided everything we can, they can continue the audit, and they've processed a lot of the open items.
They're open items primarily related to fixed assets. And I think I'll have some additional questions for Nathan so we could try and get that nailed down. We can get that done. And then they're also the ones who draft the audit report, financial statements, the footnotes. So Andy said they are concurrently working on that while Chloe is finishing with their test work so that they can get that those items completed.
And then they've got to send that to internal review. Once they get that through internal review, then we'll get a copy of it. Then we'll get, any audit adjustments and they'll be able to provide a draft for a board meeting. That he didn't tell me when he thought that would be. But he did say they want to be able to have that finalized prior to them beginning their audit work for 2022, which they still are on track to do that.
And for three weeks in June and CRS will be ready with whatever we need to start giving them before that start audit start date. Phyllis really quick. You mentioned that there was something that you'd need to follow up with me more on. I just the audio glitched a little bit. I didn't hear what it was.
Phyllis:
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I, I, have my notes together, and I'll send you an email. Perfect. I was working, and I did send you an email today on the City of Castle Pines
Nathan:
Yep I saw that one,
Phyllis:
Parks and Rec. So that's taken me a while. You know, the agreement for that transfer of funds said estimated, estimated.
And so I put together everything, as current as I could so that we can give them a transfer. And so the board understand, they're we're transferring the funds over, but but knowing that the audits not done and we haven't caught up to 23, the agreement says when the 2023 audit is completed, it will true up anything related to that
Parks and Rec amounts. And and you know, that was a suggestion of Nathan and ourselves working with the city to say, hey, we can give you these funds, but we need to make sure we're giving you the right amount of funds working with estimates. We can't give you an exact dollar. And that transfer will be made before April 30th, which is the due date 30 days after the signing of the agreement.
They gave us till April 30th. And then the fixed assets stuff that's still open that I want to work with Nathan on is a lot of the construction in progress accounts that it looks like has been on the records for quite a while. So Sadie and myself have been going through the past file, and, so we'll meet with Nathan to make sure that that all, lines up with what it's supposed to be.
And without getting to accounting, you know, the fixed assets are on your financial statements as total fixed assets for your district. You expense all your fixed assets under in your funds under a governmental accounting, you know, debt service, interest, capital assets. That's all part of the budget that you guys see. It's all lined up in the budget as expenditures.
When you go to do the audit. GASB, The Governmental Standards Board said, hey, let's put those assets on the books similar to what you do for a business. I have my capital assets and my appreciation. So we've already expended those funds that's already been accounted for in the funds. So it's a matter of saying, what assets do we have and what what bucket are they in.
And should they be depreciated? So long winded way of saying that those numbers are sitting there. They don't really go anywhere else. So having these numbers out of staff that for a while I told the auditors, we will do the best we can with Nathan's help to get those numbers cleaned up as much as we can for 2021
Audit. Knowing that if if we can't, if we're getting hung up, then we're going to hold off and finish that for the 2022 audit will not affect what their audit report says. Because it won't materially, change the fund, the financial governmental accounting reporting for those funds. Hopefully that all made a little bit of sense.
Nathan:
Yep. That makes perfect sense.
Phyllis:
Okay. I just want to make sure you knew that you were aware of that. And this is not uncommon, by the way, in districts where, capital assets just keep getting built and made and capitalized, even though we're expanding $1 million this year, $2 million this year is $3 million this year. Now we have $6 million. But to put all those pieces together and say, hey, is that one big project?
Is it 12 different projects? Did it get it, get it completed? I've seen, several districts where they had to go through and go through this same process, tying them out and making sure they're recorded in the right bucket.
Chuck:
Phyllis, thank you very much. I'm I'm not a CPA, but, this audit process seems voluminous and I appreciate what you're doing.
Do you feel comfortable that you're receiving, everything you you think you need in finalizing the 2021 audit, before the end of April, maybe first of June?
Phyllis:
Well, I, you know, I, I don't think they're going to get it done because it's already the 24th of April and they don't have a draft. So I'm saying if we get it, you know, June, the goal is to have that audit completed because you don't want to can't start the next year audit wouldn't be very efficient to start that audit until that 2021 audit is completed.
If there's any audit adjustments which I had them send me, there were not very many audit adjustments, which is a good which is a good thing. So we'll we'll post those and keep going. I also want to thank Susan for her help because whenever we ask her for information, she needed to provide all the invoices and there's numerous because of all the capital asset capital activities.
She provided those in a hurry, the sewer connection fee they asked for the other day, and we said, hey, can you figure out if we have the schedule? And she this is what it looked like for last year, and she whip that thing out in no time. And and she's already working on 22. So she's been very responsive and very helpful.
We appreciate that.
Chuck:
Very good. That's that's awesome to know. And I appreciate what you're doing and your team is doing it sounds like a really formidable task, especially when you sort of jumped into it early on. I appreciate everything you've done.
Phyllis:
Thank you. How a detective work is accounting, but it's also being a detective as well.
By the time we finish, well, pretty much know where everything lies. And the next year audit will will be much easier. And and and then also getting the, general fund and the parks and RECs and getting down to just being water and sewer. We'll also make that a bit easier.
Chuck:
Great. Well, thank you again for your team and for your efforts.
Okay. Any questions? for Phyllis board.
Tera:
No thank you. Phyllis. I know that's been a lot of work, and, I'm excited that we're starting to see and maybe end into our 2021 audit.
I do to thank you. And thank you to Sadie, because she's working very hard on helping.
Chuck:
I can see your I can see your picture on the TV.
Thank you. Sadie, you're not forgotten.
Sadie:
Thank you.... did the.
Chuck:
Well, thank you very much. anything else for the finance director? Let's close out item eight and move to, Legal Council's report. Item number nine.
Legal Counsel Kim Seter, Esq.:
You have a copy of the written report. I don't think there's anything new in there. however, we do have the executive session. We can do that now, or we can do it at the end of the meeting. Whatever your preferences.
Chuck:
Would you like to, move into an executive session right now? Is that in order?
Kim:
It is in order if you want to do it now, since there's nobody here, we certainly could.
Nathan:
In that case, we just stop the zoom call, correct?
Kim:
Yes. We'll stop the zoom call. We'll make a motion to go into executive session. pursuant to statute subsection 401, E and F, and, we won't take any action in the executive session and will probably take about 15 minutes.
Nathan:
Maybe then we could also cut David loose that point. Yes. If you want to go home,
Tera:
I think yeah, I think we should probably still go to a separate room. And then just to clarify, we're going into executive session. What are what are E and F for. So they know what topics were limited to
Kim:
Concerning obtaining legal advice with regard to matters that are subject to litigation, and also possible negotiations with regard to the legal lift station.
Number one.
Nathan:
And then Kim we also had on there, just a brief discussion around, an employee compensation issue. It was in the agenda.
Kim:
Okay. Yeah, yeah, we can do that.
Tera:
And what what section would that be?
Kim:
I'm not sure what that subsection. Okay. But I will get it into the record. Thank you.
Chuck:
All right. I hear a motion that we should, terminate this, meeting. Tentative, tentatively, tentatively, and move into the small conference room, where we will go into an executive session, based on the, legal terms that our attorney has already quoted. 401 E & F and one that you're going to look up for, HR information.
Correct. Okay. Can we close zoom right now? Thank you very much. And we will be back.
Tera:
So I think you have a motion. Did you have a second?
Chuck:
Do we have a second for that motion? Thank you.
Chris:
Do we need a motion to go into the executive?
Kim:
You do, you do And a two thirds vote.
Tera:
I'll second the motion.
Chuck:
We have a motion and a second to go into executive session.
Board Voting All Speak:
I, I, I, I might, I might come because I might. So any dissension? None. Motion carries. We will terminate our zoom for now and be right back as we go into the small conference room. Thank you.
Describer:
On screen. CPNMD Executive Session - Please Stand By April 24, 2023.
Chuck:
I'd like to call the board of directors Meeting back to order, at 6:56 p.m.. We've just come out of an executive session. We've we've made no, motions or, other agreements. Do I hear any further discussion?
Tera:
Mr. president, I make a motion to direct our attorney to resolve the legal matter.
Chris:
I second it.
Chuck:
We have a motion, to direct our attorney to resolve the Lagae matter.
We have a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. The motion carries. Mr. attorney, will you note that in the record, please?
Kim:
I will do it.
Chuck:
Anything else?
Chris:
You know, legal letters. Yeah. So the first, I guess we should. Are you finish with legal matters. Are we going on the list?
Kim:
I'm done.
Chris:
Okay, then. Then let's bring up the IGA with Denver.
Chuck:
So, wait.
Chris:
Well, hold on. I just asked if there's legal matters, and you said no. That's why I'm asking.
Chuck:
No. You okay? We do have a matter. Nathan, did you want to,
Nathan:
Yeah. So the other in mind. Yeah. The other motion we were looking for coming out of executive session was regarding the, pay difference between David Anderson.
Our obligations to him as an employee of Castle and Storage metro district, and, that of the city. Does that make sense?
Chris:
Yeah. So I think it's part of your director, your your, manager's report or the district manager's report. But if we want to do that now, we can do that now, whichever one you want to do.
Nathan:
Yeah, I think it makes sense to do it now just because it was discussed in executive session. That way we have continuity for our viewing audience.
Chris:
Okay. Well, based on that, the discussion is around, making a David Anderson whole as he is now starting his, tour with the city. And the information we have is that his salary is $15,000 annually, less than where he's going to be making.
And I'd like motion make a motion that, we Prorate is the difference of his salary for annually to make him whole and, approve that.
Chuck:
We have a motion to hear a second.
Jason:
I'll second.
Chuck:
We have a second. Any further discussion?
Tera:
Just to clarify, the motion on the table is to prorate the $15,000 difference. as part of severance pay.
Nathan:
Correct. Thanks.
Board Voting All Speak:
Further discussion. Call for a motion. Call for a vote. I I I I motion carries. Thank you very much, counselor. You'll note that.
Kim:
It is noted. All right. Thank you very much. If we are done with legal counsel's report,
Nathan:
Yea real quick. Chuck, sorry to interrupt. Did we reengage the zoom meeting? Let's go ahead and fire that back up.
Thank you.
Chris
Was that captured all what we just talked about captured?
Corby Wise, VIP Video:
It's all been recorded yes.
Chuck:
Okay? We didn't have any zoom calls.
Chris:
As long as it was just captured somewhere.
Chuck:
Go ahead.
Kim:
I believe Mr. Lewis wanted to raise and I should have remembered the IGA with Denver concerning Daniels Park water that was attached to the legal status report.
That was the one we discussed at the work session. You can see from red lines. I pretty much redrafted it. And you have a red line and a clean copy that has not come back to Denver yet, but I wanted to get any comments you might have. Before we do that.
Chuck:
You want to get what? I'm sorry.
Kim:
Any comments you may have, or frankly, if you even want to send it back to Denver.
Chuck:
Since we just received it and the red line, I would prefer to defer this until the May meeting. Is that appropriate? So that we'd have an opportunity to review it and find any questions or items that are of concern? Is that approval permissible by delaying it one month?
Kim:
Yeah. I don't think there was any big rush on their side. Was it?
Nathan:
Oh yeah. No. Denver or Denver isn't under any kind of pressure to get that taken care of. Ss I understand it, the only, question I would have, and I guess this goes more to Kim. the May meeting will take place, following the completion of the election.
And I believe that, generally speaking, you sit the new board at the beginning of the meeting at or at the end of the meeting, if it's at the beginning of the meeting, I think it would, make a little bit more sense to do some sort of direction on it just because we'll be bringing a new board on.
And we would do it at the beginning of the meeting.
Kim:
Do the agreement at the beginning of the meeting. Yes. Yeah. So this meeting will take place at the end of the meeting. Once they're elected, they're not board members until sworn in. And this board does the swearing in. So, it's I've seen it done both ways.
I frankly like to see it happen later in the meeting. The swearing in. Because you have ongoing business that you know about, like this Denver agreement, that the new board people can learn from before they're sworn in. And then they carry on from there.
Nathan:
Okay. Thank you for that clarification.
Chris:
So I other question. So as I was going through the red lines and everything else, which we got ahead of time, was it had stuff about the inclusion with Parker.
Was that supposed to be in there?, I mean, it was long.
Chuck:
No so, yeah, you were looking at the wrong one.
Kim:
Chris, Chris,
Chuck:
You wasted your time. That was last year's inclusion with Parker.
Chris:
Okay. Because I'm looking at the document, I'm going, whoa, it's all this.
Chuck:
Yeah. You didn't need it.
Chris:
Okay, so where it stopped at the page where it says intentionally, blank is where we stop.
Kim:
Yes. It was about four pages, five pages long. And that was okay. Yeah. No, the Denver portion was included by me by accident. I had a conversation that somebody wanted that included that. I interpreted to mean somebody wanted the old Parker water. Agreed. Okay, so I put it in there.
Chris:
No, that's okay, I don't worry. Fine. That's all.
Because I want to know, you know, when we when we approve this, if it included the approval of including all that stuff, that's. No. Okay. Thank you.
Chuck:
All right. District manager or we done a counselor. We are we are complete with, item number nine. item number ten, district manager's report.
Nathan:
Before I, jump to the conservation part, did anybody have any questions about my, written report that I can back provide clarity or further information on?
Tera:
...So I do have a question about the Kennedy Jenks reports with the, the Charter Oaks car wash. It says new car wash project requires relocating the fire hydrant at Castle Pines Parkway and Carolyn Drive, installing a new water service and a new sewer service. Reviews an easement have been completed.
So does the. I'm assuming the applicant who's going to put the car wash in. They have to pay for the relocating of the fire hydrant, right?
Nathan:
Yeah, correct. So they, Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. So all all of those costs are on them. So there was a with that specific project. There was a lot of back and forth around, the size of the tap fee, when we had done our initial calculations, AWWA standards put them at an inch and a half.
They were trying to get a one inch tap fee. So we were able to come to an agreement on that. They reduced the number of fixtures that they have inside the facility to get down to the one inch tap size. All of those costs fall on them, so they have to pay the tap fee. They have to pay the cost to relocate the fire hydrant to physically connect to our system.
All of that is an additional cost to the tap fee that they pay us. And then those also include development fees that the tap fee includes the water meter and all kinds of stuff. So 100% of that's on them.
Tera:
And then also the reviews and the easement that we have to do they pay for that?
Nathan:
Yeah. So the, the reviews, the, the easement recording, all of those legal fees are all things that are captured.
A subset of the tap fee schedule.
Tera:
And then it would be the same thing for the service Street auto repair. It says the lot is within the legacy family parcel at Castle Pines Parkway and Legacy Road. And Project only requires new water sewer service and new service sewer. New sewer.
Nathan:
Okay, I combine those two those two projects into one statement, but yes, that's that's the same for both.
Tera:
Yeah. It's kind of surprising to me that the, an auto repair is only going to require new water service and sewer service because don't they have to do something different to dispose of things like oil and harmful materials or whatever? Yeah, correctly. They can't put it down our sewer.
Nathan:
Correct. They can't. And so that's, the administration of that portion of the program is handled regionally by Plum Creek Water Reclamation Authority.
So they handle it's basically like fats, oils and greases. What that gets put in. And so that's where you start talking about like sanding grease interceptors. So all of those applications go through the city, us, and then it gets forwarded to PCWRA And then they oversee the installation and then also the annual maintenance and repair of that program.
Jason:
What about thank you. Sorry. What about the, carwash? Do they have to reclaim a certain portion of their water and reuse it?
Nathan:
It's standard design for any car wash. A lot of that goes into like, standard building requirements. But, yeah, I don't I don't honestly don't know what the requirements are from a like business functionality perspective, they certainly get the same water budget that everybody else does.
There, a lot of, like, stormwater requirements that they have to meet in terms of like that water can't be discharged. And so car washes is a matter of basic design. Reclaim as much of that water as possible, because water is a huge cost in their business operating expense Anyway. so that one will have a water reclamation system, it's not going to all go down the drain.
And then all of that goes through like kind of an in-house, filtration system for them as well.
Denise:
Quick question on on a carwash, did they use the same water that we use for drinking water, for example? They do because it isn't like the golf course water that's not potable. Not not
Nathan:
correct. The golf where not with not without a massive infrastructure project.
The water is the the golf course works really well for us because it's one pump that puts it into one pond. in order to make that water available for like a car wash or anything like that would require a ton of infrastructure. And then we also don't have enough water to do that. So the golf course as it is basically uses 100% of our use allotment when it's available to them.
So we don't have any additional water in that system that even if we wanted to spend several million dollars creating pump stations and additional, you know, piping to create a separate reuse system. Thanks,
Chuck:
Nathan. The question I have on the Kennedy gentleman, Mike, thank you for, regarding the station upgrades. Since that was one of the hot buttons on our failed inclusion a year ago.
Can you tell me a little bit about where we are time wise? What phase we're in?
Nathan:
Yep. So we the board took action, I think, at the February meeting to direct Kennedy Jenks to move to Final Design. they're looking to get their 70% complete design submit is what you just called the 70% set.
So once you get to that 70% of your design, then it gets submitted to the state of Colorado for final review. you they you kind of go back and forth, you know, changing anything, make taking their recommendations or their requirements in play. as of right now, we're on the same timeline that Kennedy Jenks put forward.
We should be looking to complete that 70% set and submit it to the state by the end of the year.
Chuck:
I think even by the end of 23.
Nathan:
Yeah, by by the end of 23, I think their target was October and November. I don't have their live station report handy. but yeah, they're they're on their own schedule as it was prevented presented in February.
Chuck:
Okay. I think that's all I had.
Any further questions of, Nathan regarding his report? Anybody?
Tera:
Conservation? But he's going to get that.
Chuck:
Yep. Yeah. next. Thank you. Yeah.
Nathan:
So, I lost I lost my agenda sheet here briefly. Eek!
Okay. So item B that I had on or I'm sorry, item A, that I had under my report was, basically asking the board to, go ahead and approve the fund allocation for the increase of $91,000. So this doesn't affect the bottom line of our budget. It's, it's funds that we could reallocate to put into the conservation program.
The actual, program details still need a little bit of work to Tera's point at the last meeting and then I also did get word from, Resource Central that they do have capacity inside of their program to move us into the the first option that I talked about with the partnership. And so, the partnership with Resource Central that was presented last week is available to us.
I did get the contract for that today. I haven't done anything with it. I wanted to make sure I had board approval for the budget. And then I also wanted to get it in front of Kim to make sure he doesn't have any issues with it. They do have, some, like, some requirements as part of that partnership are, the communications and public messaging.
So we are required and they do work with us to get that public messaging piece out. We're required. We're required at a minimum to do a bill insert. We'd obviously also bring bring things up on the website. So we'll get that portion of it in place relatively quickly and then really flush out, the rest of the conservation program.
So I think for this year, what makes sense is to just focus on that partnership. And then we can worry more about, things like increasing fines or putting fine, fine structures in place, mandatory watering, all of that. We can kind of table work with them, build a much more robust program, get a lot more consensus. But in the interim, we have, really heavily demonstrated, our, our community, I guess, is really heavily demonstrated their willingness and commitment to taking full advantage of these programs.
So I want to get that moving for them as quickly as possible. And then take some time to get more buy in on a more, robust program.
Chuck:
So if I understand it right here, you're still, reviewing, the agreement. And you might have that presented to us in May.
Nathan:
We can the agreement is something that I would like to get done sooner.
I think that it's fairly basic. It's nothing that, it's not that different than the slow the flow agreement that we've signed before. I think that it can correct me if this is incorrect, but if the board can, allow us to go ahead with that agreement pending Kim's review, then we can get that in place. And do we really need to get that signed so that they can allocate their daughter their dollars and get their contractors, like the contractors that they're going to be using for this irrigation software replacement stuff ready to go another month would probably put us behind the ball, behind the eight ball on it.
Chuck:
You presented it to Kim, and, he'll review it. and then what do you want to do? email us or put a. How do you want to get it to us for our review?
Kim:
You should probably authorize 1 or 2 board members to take a look at it also. And then if there's nothing in there that surprises them, authorize it, signing it.
Perfect. And that so it would be subject to approval by council, district manager and two board members. Whoever named the board members.
Nathan:
I'll let you guys fight amongst yourselves for the lucky to. I'd be happy to be one of them who would like to volunteer and Denise.
Denise:
Sure. Nathan, I have a question on this. We talked about a couple different numbers budgeting for this.
Are we trying to go for the maximum of what? What is it? Resource center. Resource center? Is that the we talked about if they could, handle if we gave them more business.
Nathan:
Yeah. We are going for the maximum, the max. They have capacity for this year.
Denise:
That okay. Great. That's what I wanted to make sure of.
So awesome.
Chris:
Thanks, Denise. Because so 65 is the maximum they can do. Yeah.
Nathan:
Just because we got into the program a little bit later this year. It's also they've had a ton of growth on this as well. they've got you know, they have I think they have 19 different landscape companies that they're working with to actually implement this.
And there's I think 20 some odd other organizations that they're working with. And so they really just need to make sure that they don't over, over promise what they can physically get boots on the ground to. And I think that, I would anticipate that this program will expand pretty rapidly, into next year as they build those partnerships out.
And we're then we'll start looking at when they're looking at their projections, if we have a higher budget, projection as well. There's another program, that I, as far as I know, will be put in place again next year. That's, state funded, that actually, will give us an opportunity if we get into this game earlier with them this year, that they will actually be able to provide some level of matching dollars, assuming that we're an applied applicant and applicants, we may be able to, in the next year, drastically increase the size of this program and then double that through some sort of matching grant, if we can get that in place.
But it's a it's a good jumping off point. It will also, help us make sure that we have the participation. So this will be a new program. We'll have a minimum of 15 residents. If they take full advantage of it, would be able to, utilize this. It'll probably be more than that because not everyone's going to take 100%.
And I think that it's a very low likelihood of happening, but there is a possibility that we put this program in place. And, you know, only two thirds of it actually get utilized, in which case we wouldn't want to do it. It'll it'll give us kind of a litmus test to get a lot more information before we put a lot of time and effort into it, into, into next year.
Chuck:
Jason and, Tera, since this program is rolling over into your, time on the board, would you, be willing to review the documents with us, to go forward so that you feel comfortable with what's what's moving forward?
Tera:
Well, I think we have to be careful about not having an illegal meeting, which is why I think our council suggested that having two people.
Right. but I do have a question
Chuck:
Thank you for that. Yeah. I think we all know...
Tera:
I do have a question. So just to clarify in my mind, because I know the way it's phrased is, a budget increase of 91,000, but it doesn't affect the bottom line because those can that expense can be largely offset by a reduction in the planned 126,000 budgeted amount for communications.
So are you asking? I'm not sure what the motion is. I mean, I'm in favor of the program. I understand the urgency to get this going so we can get into it as, the weather it doesn't seem like it's going to get better as the weather gets better and people start working on projects. So are you asking for, approval to for a certain line item or.
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking for, since it doesn't really affect the bottom line.
Nathan:
Yeah, I thank you for putting that in there. So. Or for pointing that out. yes. A much more accurate way to phrase this would be a budget reallocation, specifically related to the, know where to go. There's three and three line items, that we'd be looking at, or I apologize, two line items that we'd be looking at.
So a budget reallocation, from the communications, from line items related to communications to the individual line items directly related for the rebate program, as well as the slow the flow program is where those those will go. So. Correct. It's not a budget increase. It's a budget reallocation.
Tera:
Okay. Well, in that case, I make a motion to reallocate the $91,000 from the communication line item to line items, the for the rebate and the slow, the slow, the flow program in order to take advantage of this opportunity, and approve the contract subject to approval by council, the district manager, president Lowen and director Crew.
I think that was it. Did I get it all in there? Nailed it. Thank you. Should second.
Jason:
I'll second that.
Chuck:
We have a motion. We have a second.
We have a motion and a second. Do we have any further discussion?
Denise:
Remind me again of the name of the company Resource resource central. Resource central. Thank you.
Nathan:
It used to be the center for Conservation Resource Management. So, consider ourselves lucky that they shrunk that down for us.
Board Voting All Speak:
Further discussion. Call for a vote Jason. I, I, Denise, I, Chris I and Tera I the motion passes.
Chuck:
Counselor did you get that motion down? I did. All right. Very good. Further direct, district manager's information do we need?
Nathan:
I don't have anything specific. I did just want to, point out really quick that, the the issue that we had talked about with the water quality control division last month, the state actually did well the WQCD did, decide to take a step back.
So they didn't do blanket implementation. They are going to allow for state standards, site specific deviation that includes Chatfield Reservoir. So we do not at this time have to worry about putting a massive capital program in place that would triple our wastewater rates. So that's something that they're taking a step back at looking at and it's looking favorable that that's not going to be something that gets implemented in Chatfield Reservoir unless they see a specific rise in the nutrients and contaminants that this program was targeting.
Chuck:
I think that was a good decision. I saw your email and I thought, well, there's a big breath of fresh air on that one.
Nathan:
Yeah. For for a lot of us.
Chuck:
Yeah. Okay. Very good.
Nathan:
That's all I've got. All right. I've got this stuff.
Chris:
Did you, We did it. did you want to talk about this Board of directors retreat or.
That was just information.
Nathan:
Okay. yeah, I can absolutely talk about the board of directors retreat. I will be looking to, put together, you can call it a board of directors retreat or, like, kind of an onboarding process, board training. However you wanted to look at Kim and I have had a few discussions, just kind of, more passively than anything else, but I have directly spoken with, a few different entities.
I apologize, I lost the last page of my own report. But really we'll be looking at is once a new board is in place, I want to take, right now, I've got about eight hours worth of material to really just get everybody brought up to speed. So that would include, Kim doing a presentation on responsibilities, roles and restrictions on boards.
Like what you can and can't do, what you're legally required to do. Austin Hamre, who is our water rights attorney, has has a kind of, like, prepackaged thing that he does with boards. It's basically a water rights 101. So we can kind of let you know what our water rights portfolio currently looks like. And then a really high level view on how water rights work.
We'd also be doing the same thing with, finance. So having our finance team put together a presentation kind of explaining how those processes work, what the boards are required to do, and then give them just a general overview of where we are or where we've come from, where we are and where we're going. And then the last half of that would be, boots on the ground facility tour.
So we get get the board out. Actually take them to the water treatment plant, a couple of stations, some well sites really get them to understand as best we can the system, the operations side of the system. And so that's something that I'll be, I'll be putting together. I'll obviously have to wait until the new board is seated to figure out what those dates and what that looks like.
It's important to keep in mind that that, that those will be public meetings because they are, we have more than two board members hanging out there. And so that'll be an opportunity for the public to kind of come and get the same information if they want. And, yeah, no decisions will be made through them. It'll be solely educational.
So the board, the new board has all the information that they need to make whatever informed decisions they can.
Chuck:
I think that's great. I think it's a wonderful idea. I'm sure Jason would agree, not having a formal indoctrination when he jumped into the fray. But,
Denise:
No more baptism by fire, right?
Jason:
I totally agree, it would be nice,
Nathan:
But I think it may be.
It may still be baptism by fire. I'll just be the one with the flame thrower.
Chuck:
That's great. Nathan, thank you very much. Great idea. I don't think you need any emotion or anything. I think that's, that's a good. Call. Thank you. Learning session for you to put together and anybody else, like Kim Seter, or Austin Hamre.
And I forget who else you might include, but, would we do it here? would we do it?
Nathan:
Everything. But. Yeah, everything but the facility tours. Would it be the easiest just to hold it in this space? That's a good spot for those presentations. And then, you know, similar to what we did for the, water treatment plant tours and the interconnect pump station tour, we'd likely just hire there's we use the same company that we locally charter a bus and roll everybody over there and
Chuck:
I think that's great.
Empty the buildings, after reviewing the or listening to the, board candidates the other night, I think that this is imperative to, to do, and, I would highly recommend obviously all board, especially the new board. And then since it's a could be construed as a public meeting open to, the public to come in and listen, not necessarily ask questions, but I that's, that's to be determined.
Is that appropriate?
Kim:
Yep. I think it's a great idea.
Chuck:
Okay. Nathan.
Nathan:
I'm done. When you say I'm done at this point,
Chuck:
You've done a lot. Thank you very much. Any questions? Nope. All right. Let's move to, close out. Number ten, move to 11 district managers report. The only thing I have is, just a congratulations to, Terrence and Corby. I think you both did a great job the other night at the candidate forum.
I watched it several times on radio, and, the sound was good. The picture was good. You track the questions perfectly. So, thank you for being there. Thank you for your time. Good job. And I know the community. I don't know about every one of them, but quite a few reviewed it online, because I got calls and comments and I also saw, as did Nathan, an uptick in the delivered ballots today.
So, good job, guys. Thank you for your time. Very good. I think the, candidate, forum was, was excellent to, listen to, seven. Really, I think, good. knowledgeable people. And I'll be interested to see how the community votes. But I feel very good that, with with them, myself and Denise and Chris moving on this board, is going to be, well, heeled to, take on what lies ahead.
And I suspect that involves an inclusion of some sort, but that's up to, the new board. But, I think it was a great learning experience for a lot of people. I think we had over 50, 55 viewers, including the group that was here and the 30 plus that were online, if I remember correctly. So, good job.
Dull. Especially the the new members or the new or the candidates that came. I, I appreciated the their comments and Jim candidate not director.
Not yet anyway.
Kim:
Next time next time we'll just redefine those to mean the same thing and
Chuck:
Thank you very much. I have no other directors matters.
Chris:
Okay. Chris Lewis okay. So, so I'd like to make a motion for this board to, give direction to council to explore an IGA with the city for, for water and sewer, and, do I have.
That's my motion.
Chuck:
So your motion is to create, an intergovernmental agency agreement between the Castle Pines North Metro district and the city to further discussions, to explore, explore. I like that word.
Chris:
An IGA with the city first for water and sewer. And then we can have the discussion here a second.
Denise:
I'll second.
Chuck:
We have a second.
Discussion. clarify for me. Chris, I understand where you're headed. What what is your definition of explorer? What does that mean? team, walk over to the city and talk with the, mayor. Or how do you envision this exploration working?
Chris:
So what what explore means is for, pretty much just the council to the board to give the council direction to go have start the conversations with the city, just like we've done on parks, trails and open space, just as we've done in stormwater to explore, interest in doing an IGA for water and sewer.
So as part of the the overall discussion, you know, we we now have, moved over those two functions that I mentioned to the city. And the reason we did that is because there is an opportunity for us to realize savings from having one organization doing, the function itself from a function of, on the water and sewer side.
You know what? When we do it, a combination of of the G&A or administration, we have administration costs. We have, a unity of governments where we have in negotiations with any other entity for whatever we have to do, whether that's going to be an inclusion or not. And, and that will give us a stronger, a stronger base to have those negotiations with whatever entity we decide to go with.
We'll, we'll also have, the ability to have just like this stormwater and park trail and open space, a simplification of confusion from a residents perspective. Right. So now if we have, issues with water and sewer, we all know who to go to. And then we also have,
an opportunity, further down the road for us to essentially have a further cost savings and simplification and through maybe a dissolution or a combination of the district into to the city. So those those are my points.
Jason:
I've got a question. So, how does this, I'm sorry, what did you call it? IGA not the IGA but the, inclusion, the whole process of, going about this, exploration.
Exploration and exploration operation. Yeah. How does this exploration differ from when three of the outgoing board members met with the city earlier this month to discuss this very topic? That is not handled in the, that. Sorry, I'm just irritated. So it's, got me going a little bit here. How is that? You know, the other night in the, with the candidates, Kim brought up a few times that this board is a body.
Right? And the three of you went ahead and went behind our backs to go meet with the city, to try and do an inclusion in 30 days while you guys are still on the board. That is deceptive. And I think it's wrong. And I'm really looking forward to a new board that is more transparent than that.
Chris:
Well that's good.
Jason:
Am I wrong?
Chris:
Absolutely. Absolutely wrong.
Jason:
Well we'll talk to the mayor.
Chris:
But, I know the allegation. I mean, make sure it's on the record. Transparency. The allegation is that myself, who the other board members,
Jason:
The three outgoing board members. Okay, board member, director, crew and director Lowen met with the city to have conversations on include collusion with the city.
Absolutely wrong. So I just want to make sure I'm on the record. I have not met with anyone to do this. Now let's just keep the conversation going because you would be right.
Jason:
Yes, you are correct. You were not there at the meeting only because it was clarified to you that that would violate sunshine laws.
Tera:
The request was made for the three of you to go and have the conversation and quite frankly, I'm I cannot believe that you keep bringing this topic up.
So 2 or 3 meetings ago, you requested this this board all voted that we had no interest in it. You went to the city to ask if they had interest in it. They told you they don't have interest in it. So why do you keep pursuing this? You have been on here since 2019. Denise and Chuck have been on here since 2018.
Why now and why this? And it's disingenuous on your part and it's has total disrespect and disregard for this election that's coming up. And these people who signed up for this board, and it's very improper for a board in their essentially their last meeting to try to do something and commit a future board. You just can't do that.
Jason:
Okay. If you need dates and times, Chris, I'll be happy to provide them.
Chris:
I don't need any dates and times anything, anything I have to say or we have to say aye, we can say in public because nothing I do will be done in private. Okay. the the, motion is to explore. We did the same motion as we did for parks, trails and open space.
And we did the same motion as we did for sewer. This is exactly what you do. You reach out to the different, entities to start conversations with them as to whether, you know, they have an interest in doing it. That's how we started with parks, trails and open space as a
Tera:
And the city has said they're not interested.
So why would we keep asking them when they have said, I am sorry, Director Radloff, I am, I think I am speaking, so let me finish and then you can interject. Okay. Thank you. And so as a just a process, we just reach out to see whether they have a commerce, if they have an interest, there is nothing that is done against a rule when we do that.
So I just want to say that, whether or not any other board members had those conversations, those conversations would have reached out to to identify if there's interest. Now, your comment about whether this has been brought up before. Yes, we did bring this up in a study session. Now we're putting it on record that as a board and we will vote.
It's a motion. We'll vote. And you guys can all we can all say, nope, we don't want to do it. But it's just that from a community perspective, right? We want to put the community in the best position where we can represent, the, the total community of Castle Pines. And what we're saying is we have, individually and as a group, gone out to meet with each other.
The water districts. Right. We have met with all of them. We've gotten their feedback and we have met with with the ones that we wanted to do the inclusion with, which would be Parker and gotten their feedback. And essentially their timeline is whatever, 2 or 3, two years from now. That's fine. We are not comitting a future board to anything.
All we're doing is asking, for an exploration of whether we can do, a future IGA and then and I think if we look on your bio, those are some of the people's bios on this board. And if you look at some of the folks that are coming in on the new board members, part of what they said was they want to see a reduction in government won and that they would like to streamline that.
So that's just..
Jason:
Here's the major difference on the other meetings that you're talking about. We discussed this as a board prior to going out and meeting those people. This was done with three board members without talking about it in front of the board, going out and meeting about it.
Chuck:
Let me let me clarify that point. Jason, with all due respect, there were two board members and it was at the request of, of Tracy Engelman to meet down at the, exchange, which I am not.
I've only been there twice before. And she brought Chris Eubanks, and we had a very frank discussion about a lot of things. One of them obviously was, water, and sewer. And they are interested contrary to what Tera has to say, however, they are, according to Tracy, very busy right now with a, urban rural renewal Authority, decision for the commercial district and several, several other items that they have on their board.
And when the dust settles, Tracy's comment to me was it would be very appropriate to have this discussion with the new board so that we can see, where they are coming from. And I said that's you're absolutely right. We're not going to make any decisions in this meeting to do any kind of IGA with the city.
Not is not going board members. Those are the responsibility of the new board. And that's the we left it. It was very friendly. There were no agreements made whatsoever. And there was two of us, and three of them. And it was a very casual breakfast. Nothing in secret.
Jason:
I'm glad you had a good breakfast, but that is not what was told to me directly from both of those members.
Yeah, and so I'm going off of that information, which they have no reason to lie to me. And it's backed up by another, council member.
Denise:
It it was Chuck and myself, Tracy Angerman and Chris. I'm sorry. Yeah. Eubanks. Eubanks. Thank you. I was trying to blank on his last name. I think what we're just trying to get at.
And I don't believe this was devious or underhanded. I think we're just trying to express that as we exit, our wish is still to consider inclusion. We spent the better part of four years trying to include with Parker to have it pulled out from under us. So I agree with what Chris said as we've met with other, water districts to see, this is just another idea to float out there.
That's a possibility.
Jason:
It should have been floated in front of the whole board to begin with.
Denise:
Okay. And I'm not going to deny that, but let's go.
Jason:
That looks really bad with three outgoing people coming to the city saying, let's do an inclusion in 30 days so that we can get this on the books.
Denise:
And I, I, I hear you and I understand that, but it's not the first time that this has happened.
There has been another member early on that met with Parker and had a whole published article in the newspaper that none of us knew about that. That was pretty backhanded, in my opinion. I don't think what we did, first of all, I know what we did was not illegal at all. We had a conversation. Okay, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying I don't want to, you know, we just want to put on record what our desires are, what the new board decides to do. It's totally up to you. But that that's that's all it was. It wasn't a witch hunt. It wasn't anything like that. And I'm sorry if you feel so offended.
Jason:
No, it wasn't a witch hunt, but it was deceptive by not bringing it to our attention.
Tera:
So. And I want to remind everyone that we did talk about it in a meeting in and, and the district manager is nodding his head. We all voted it at that time. We all said no, we did not want to pursue it. And I think, you know, the city's response of, yeah, we would happily engage with the new board tells you all that you need to know that it's not appropriate for you.
I also find it interesting that, again, Denise and Chuck have been on here for five years. You've been on here for four years and what your very last meeting. Now you're doing a Hail Mary pass or something that you think you're gonna either get glory or I don't even know what you're trying to do. It makes so it makes such perfect nonsense.
Because again, it's showing disregard to the board that's coming in as if they're not smart enough to figure out what the right resolution for renewable water is for this community. Everyone that I heard speak, there's not a bad, unintelligent, member who is running person who is running for the open seats and to now all of a sudden want us to talk to the city or give direction that way you've put it I mean, this discussion has put it on record what your desires are.
But it is time. There's a time to go away, grace. And this is it.
Chris:
Are you done? So the timing is actually perfect. And no reason the timing is perfect is because we just did two IGAs. We did two IGAs, which means this for combination of all of us. Plus some of the passport actually decided after we didn't get the inclusion done with, with Parker, that the best path forward was to start doing IGAs to essentially move responsibilities over to the city.
And that's what we did. So last month or the month before that, it's last month. We find we signed off on the second of the IGAs. This month we're just bringing it up. It flows right. The next step is still the IGA for water. Okay, it's not disingenuous. I'm pretty sure that we're all, not making any decision on on the IGA we're leaving it up to the next board.
But to say that we're being dishonest or anything because we're leaving in in a month or whatever, I just want everybody to understand we are elected until the end of the next the next meeting. Right. And nobody's trying to close this in a month. We're just bringing it up. So until the end of the next meeting, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be doing my fiduciary duty.
Tera:
So there is no proof that there's any savings that you referred to. I mean, prices continue to go up. Renewable water. We're not going to get it for free. We need something that we don't have now. We're going to have to pay for that. And the city is not a water provider. And there's still, no matter what, going to be two water providers in the city.
The city is not a water provider.
Chuck:
I think that's all understood. I think that the, the meeting with, with Tracy and, Chris was, purely, a conversation. Tracy wanted that, she wanted to explain to us what, her new council is doing and what she's doing. It was great to learn it. the the thing that I've taken on a great deal of pride in over the last year and a half or so, is that the relationship between the metro district and the city has improved tenfold.
And I'd be extremely disappointed if, the new board doesn't keep that process moving forward. The city's important, the city is open to meet with us, to talk with us, whether we do an inclusion or something completely different really doesn't matter. Ihe important thing is that whatever we do as a district, we should do it in tandem
And as a friend with the city. And as far as I'm concerned, when we leave in May, we will have achieved, at least, can finishing two very important IGAs And we've also created a relationship with the city of Castle Pines and their council, that I think has been very beneficial to the residents in this community.
And if you talk to any resident, they will agree that, the district and the city should be talking, and that's all we did. Nothing was, promised. Nothing was voted on. Nothing was decided. It was just a very good, friendly meeting. And I think as the president of the board, I have the opportunity to do that anytime I want, right up to the 11th hour in May, if it's so inclined that I want to do it.
And Tracy wants to meet, whether you like it or not. Can't help it. You can. You can say whatever you want. You can stamp your feet. You can say,
Tera:
I don't have a problem with it. I only have a problem if you do, sunshine, you violate the sunshine law.
Chuck:
There is no sunshine violation whatsoever with two people from the city and two people from the board.
There's no violation whatsoever. So you're just trying to perfect what isn't there, and it's inappropriate.
Tera:
Well, and I can assure you that going forward, we will have a great relationship because both Director Blankaert and I have excellent relationships with the city.
Chris:
Okay. So, that was discussion there was,
Chuck:
Okay, we can call for a vote.
You would you rephrase your motion if you could, Chris, please? Absolutely. So what I'm my motion is to have the board, give council the direction to explore an IGA with the city for water and sewer, and to have further conversation on whether there is any, interest or there is any benefit for us to be doing an IGA.
No time attached to it. It's an open ended, exploration that the future board will have an opportunity to modify by edits, change whatever they want to do, because we wouldn't be here. But I have all confidence. I have all, I have all belief that the board and the incoming board will do what's in the best interests of the community.
Chuck:
We have a second on that motion.
Denise:
I will second that motion. We do have a second.
Board Voting All Speak:
We've had a discussion, and so I'd like to call for a vote. Jason. No, I. I know, and I'm a I in favor. So the motion passes 3 to 2. I what I like about the motion, as Chris just said, it's open ended.
And it really is, going to be up to the new board to, to walk this decision through, either way, it really doesn't matter. But, it's a good point. Any other comments for district managers? I have a district matters. Hearing none.
Board Voting All Speak:
I have a motion to adjourn the meeting. Second. Second on favor? motion to adjourn.
Thank you guys.