March 15, 2021 Video Board Meeting
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Describer:
AGENDA
Board of Directors Meeting
Monday, March 15, 2021, at 6:00 p.m.
7404 Yorkshire Drive, Castle Pines, CO 80108
1. Welcome / Call meeting to order / Pledge of Allegiance.
2. Roll call / Determination of quorum / Disclosure of potential conflicts.
3. Consider approving March 15, 2021 board meeting agenda.
4. Consider approving February 22, 2021 board meeting minutes.
5. Opening public comment period via Zoom (three-minute maximum per person).
6. Project updates and insights from the City of Castle Pines’ designated liaison to
CPNMD’s board of directors, Councilwoman Deborah Mulvey.
7. Open Space Manager’s report.
8. Legal Counsel’s report.
A. Proposed Inclusion of CPNMD’s water wastewater utilities with those of
the Parker Water & Sanitation District (PWSD).
1) Certification of CPNMD Ballot Question 6A.
2) Voting methods & locations, ballot-return period, Election Day.
3) Provisions of Inclusion Agreement.
4) Timing of proposed Inclusion.
9. Finance Director’s report.
A. Consider approving financial report, payables, and claims for payment,
including check numbers 25866 -25929 (February 6 — March 5, 2021).
General Fund & Debt Service Approve $16,518.80 Ratify $32,523.22 Totals $49,042.02
Enterprise Funds Approve $78,368.07 Ratify $206,405.47 Totals $284,773.54
Electronic Payments (all funds) Approve $0.00 Ratify $84,838.97 Totals $84,838.97
Total Expenditures Approve $0.00 Ratify $0.00 Totals $418,654.53
10. District Manager’s report.
A. Second quarterly Clean-Up Castle Pines Day, Saint Patrick’s Day morning,
Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., Coyote Ridge Park.
11. Directors’ matters.
12. Closing public comment period via Zoom (three-minute maximum per person).
13. Adjourn.
Describer:
The video starts on graphic with a white background and forest green letters which says “Castle Pines North Metro District Board Meeting March 15, 2021”. More text appears that says “Joining board meeting in progress.” The meeting opens on a shot of all board members present. There is also a T.V. screen showing the Zoom meeting for people joining the meeting via Zoom.
Board President David McEntire:
And Jim Worley, that we have sufficient space and we have sufficient opportunity to continue what we started last year in addressing, the appropriate grading behind the curve so that we minimize not only sediments, but water into and onto the street-way. So, it is with that that I'm going to pass this to Craig.
Craig, we've got your report. I appreciate that, I'm prayerful that the damage to the monument there at Daniels Gate still comes to us without any harm to the individual that hit that if you know. But you have the floor. Take it away.
Craig Miller, Supervisor, Parks, Trails, and Open Space, CPNMD:
Thank you. Unknown the condition of the gentleman who had the seizure and hit that monument at this point in time.
And I'm with you in your thoughts on that Mr. President. Because it was a great concern that he had a seizure. In regards to the irrigation and grading and things of that sort. That you’ve just been discussing, we're very mindful of making sure that all of our irrigation hits target areas only. In other words, it doesn't hit sidewalks.
Curb and gutter, or roads. My two employees spent an awful lot of time during summer practice. That's all they're involved in. From irrigation turn on until shut off is making sure that everything is directed appropriately so that we get the minimal overspray onto roads, curbs and gutters. That's our goal from that standpoint. As you know, I'm very focused on water conservation and xeriscape, as well as the horticultural aspects of our parks space.
But irrigation is a pet peeve of mine. Running it too often, or running it where it hits off-target areas like streets and things like that is our number one priority. So my guys are really focused on that. We've also retrofit a good portion of our irrigation system to multi-stream, multi-rotator nozzles. Which put out 30% less water than traditional pop-ups.
And they're also extremely easy to direct out of target areas. So I'd probably say our irrigation efficiency in terms of hitting the turf areas that we do irrigate is probably in the neighborhood of 90% plus. Which is actually extremely high for industry. And both my guys, especially David Anderson, are very focused on making sure that we're minimizing street contact with the irrigation lines.
Our open space areas are all non irrigated, so we have no irrigation water running off of those open space areas. As noted, we are looking at that drainage project up there near Esperanza, on Monarch. And we'll be looking at executing that project September, October. I recommend that I be able to set up a meeting with Tom Cain once the snow melts to find out the exact areas that he's concerned about. In terms of targeting the regrading and soil replacement and reseeding.
So that we can get vegetation back in there. So far as other items that I wanted to address. My guys had a tough time with snow removal today. That snow, as you all know, is very heavy and wet. Their equipment, we have two pieces of equipment out there. A bobcat skid steer and a bobcat utility vehicle with a plow on it.
They got stuck multiple times today, spent a lot of their time literally spinning their wheels, trying to get unstuck and achieve some kind of direction of snow removal. They had a very tough time with it. So as my chief foreman, David Anderson reported to me today they had a real tough time today. We're hoping to get a better handle on the trail clearance tomorrow.
Obviously, the heavy amount of snow that we had and the amount of snow that the city's contractors threw from their street vials onto our sidewalks have definitely slowed them down in that regard. But they'll be working on it diligently tomorrow. I just advise residents to have patients in that regard. This is kind of one of those one-off snowstorms. We don't get them very often.
We do get them in March typically, but the weight of the snow is so excessive that our equipment can barely move it. So just have a little patience in that regard. Anybody has any questions on any other items from my board report? I’ll be happy to answer.
Board President Chuck Lowen:
Craig, I might have misunderstood or didn't hear you on item number one regarding the repairs that will commence on the gate that was knocked down.
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Is the, has the insurance company notified you? Have you notified the insurance company? Yes. Do we have a dialogue going?
Describer:
Craig says “yes” twice the same time that Chuck is speaking.
Craig:
Yeah Jim, Jim Worley has gone ahead and been in contact with the insurance company. I've been supporting him with photographs and information I got from the meeting I had with the Douglas County Sheriff.
When he took the report on the damage. So that's in the process and it is going to take some time. We've left everything as is at this point in time. Because the gentleman's insurance should pick up the cost of the monument repair and mitigation.
Chuck:
Okay. I'm not sure why it has to take so much time. The insurance companies are pretty proactive when they have an accident. They come out, take pictures. They determine fault and they send somebody a check, or they tell them they're not going to take care of it. But sitting on it doing nothing doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry.
Craig:
Jim, do you have any further comments on that?
District Manager Jim Worley:
Let me address that if I could, Chuck. The pool, SDA pool is who we have our insurance with. So we make a claim with them. Which I did probably three weeks ago I'm thinking. And then they hand that off to a company called Sedgwick. Which does the research on it.
And so I've had two communications with them. Which I also gave them the, I think it's the. Anyway the report that the officer wrote, the name of the individual, some information about that. So I believe they're on top of it Chuck, but we'll stay on top of them just to make sure we get that done quicker than later.
Chuck:
Thanks, Jim. Thanks, Craig.
Craig:
Yeah.
David:
Craig, you mentioned the area there close to Esperanza and, and Mr. Cain, that area as I recall in our conversation. Yours and Jim Worley's and myself, is about 12,000, 13,000 square feet, something of that.
Craig:
It’s 335 cubic yards of soil removed, replaced and.
Describer:
David said “Right” while Craig was still talking which made Craig stop talking.
David:
Right. But here's the question. Obviously, that is only phase one, part one. Correct.
David:
How many parts in your guestimation, and it's just a guess, how many parts of equal size in your guestimation are you working on as requested earlier? How many more parts are there to come?
Craig:
We're probably looking at six different portions including portions south on Monarch just north of Castle Pines Parkway.
On the East side of the road, there just North of Castle Pines Parkway is fairly sterile just as the areas up north near Esperanza are just from the heavy road salt accumulation. So that's basically what we're looking at. But again, I'd like to arrange a meeting with Tom Cain once it's snow melts so that we can prioritize the areas that Esperanza is concerned about. Because they were first to the table. And from there we can go on.
David:
With any questions about? With, with, Mr. Worley's consent and confirmation of saying we would agree with that path to, once we get those six parts, have them in hand when the snow melts and let's get with Mr. Cain and prioritize them accordingly.
I've noticed definitively, definitively that when you are involved in these projects behind the curb. To restate my point that, that the water goes in the right direction and the areas thrive. So it is, it's with that, that it is full steam ahead. And, and if there's additional information that you need feel free to let us know ahead of time so that we're prepared for that conversation that you have.
With those folks. In addition let me just wrap up by asking you last summer there was a great deal of work behind the curb throughout the community. And in this, in one of our monthly meetings it was specifically brought up that the work behind the curb at the intersection of Castle Pines Parkway and Monarch was, was deficient.
And I was assured by you and Jim that until which time that was formally approved, that, that, that work would be corrected. Here's the question, and correct me if I'm wrong, that work behind the curb at that intersection has not been formally approved. Is that true?
Craig:
That is correct. In fact, that work just North of Castle Pines Parkway on Monarch, on the East side of Monarch, was damaged.
That was incurred from the city's cable contractor. They went ahead and did some replacements that failed. They came in and did some other replacements that failed. And since then, they've rutted it up with trucks again as they've done another go-round in through there. So at this point in time, that area does need to be repaired. And that was, again, the city's contractor that caused that damage.
David:
Okay. And I know that they have a contract and they had a specific line item for that. I just want to make sure that because we, working together with the city, we have the expertise, the labor and the wherefore all to do that work. But I want to make sure that in behalf of the city we don't accept. We don't accept inferior work.
Craig:
Not at all.
David:
Before which time we take over the maintenance, okay.
Craig:
Yep, absolutely.
David:
Very good.
Craig:
That's something that, that we are working with the city on.
David:
Very good.
Craig:
So Larry is aware of it and it should be taken care of this spring at the proper time for installing sod that is a sovereign area.
David:
That, that’s great. And I have to believe that it would be very easy for you and your report to give us a 30-day notice of that pending approval.
Craig:
Yep.
David:
So that the staff and, and the board would like to look at it as that opportunity. So if you would, please.
Craig:
Absolutely.
David:
Okay Chris, any, any questions for Craig?
Board Member Director Chris Lewis:
No. Good report. No issues in it. Please thank the guys for all the work they're doing shoveling. I'm sure this is one of those snow storms that I’m sorry I missed. I actually like the snow.
Craig:
Thank you Chris, and I'll pass that on to my guys because I'll tell you, they put a hell of a lot of effort in today. And it's extreme.
I've been on that end of the shovel. It's very frustrating when you get your equipment buried, and it takes hours to dig it out and to pull it out and to get things back up, only to get it buried again. So it's been quite a frustrating storm for my guys, and I'll pass your kudos on to them. I appreciate it.
Chuck:
Craig, I appreciate your difficulty in handling the snow. When I hear that your equipment goes down or something breaks, I get frustrated. But I realize it's reality because in my own association this morning, they brought a skid lift in, our contractor, and took it off the truck and it blew a hydraulic line. So that was frustrating. And then they brought a truck with a big blade on, in front and he got up to our house and the snow was so heavy. It blew its transmission. Yep. And the wheels fell off. Everything stopped.
Craig:
Exactly, exactly.
Chuck:
So I was wondering what you guys were doing on your spare time. Can you come to my association?
Craig:
If we ever have some spare time, we're very fortunate that we've had no major equipment breakdowns. It's just getting the equipment buried. We did have our large Ford F-350 last night. Nathan was running it, trying to clear our parking lots and things like that. And it got stuck on Yorkshire. So even the big trucks with the big plow blades get stuck. So again, kind of one of those one-off snowstorms. The snow is so wet and heavy. Very difficult to deal with. We had a lot of melt today, so hopefully tomorrow it’ll, it’ll show us some progress.
Chuck:
Thank you guys, because it was, it was deep, it was heavy. And I, I heard a report on TV that Castle Rock got eight inches of snow. I had 26 at my house, and right in front of my garage doors I had four feet.
Craig:
You know what, I'm with you Chuck. I had 26 inches at my house, and I had drifts of three feet. It took quite a while to get it cleared. My snow blower just wouldn't work it.
Chuck:
Thanks for your work.
Craig:
Appreciate it. I'll pass that onto my guys as well. They'll appreciate your thoughts.
David:
Yeah, and let me second that in addition to thanking everyone on, on, in your group as well as Jim's group for coming in and making it a half day.
We appreciate that. And I know everybody appreciated the parking lot being clear and access being sufficient to get here so thank you Jim. Thank you Craig.
Craig:
You got it.
Jim:
If I could add one thing to that Mr. Chairman and, while most of us were sleeping at six or seven this morning his guys were here already.
I don't know what time they got here Craig, but those gentlemen got here real early this morning. We didn't open the office until noon so there was just a, a couple of our ladies out front. Were the ones that came in around noon. But those gentlemen were here bright and early doing what they can. So kudos to them. I wish I would have had some of that equipment in my house yesterday when I was trying to shovel some of that heavy stuff. But they do a lot of good work.
Craig:
Yeah, just to let you know, on snow days like this, my guys normally come in anywhere between 5 and 6 a.m. Because they want to get a jump on it and it's tough. David comes all the way from Wheat Ridge, and Natalia comes. from far North as well. So for them to navigate the roads at that hour. And their commitment to that makes me real proud.
David:
Thank you again, Craig. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Chuck. We're going to close item number seven, open space manager's report and open up item eight. Council I, do I. Yeah I see council's face joining us. You have the floor.
Legal Counsel Kim Seter, Esq.:
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to chime in on the snowfall because I. I shovel my neighbor's driveways because they're both older than me. And they pitched in together and bought me a snowblower. And today was the first day I tried to use it. It worked great for about an hour. And then the snow got so heavy it jammed all the time. And then when I finally got it going again. I picked up my neighbor's Denver Post, in the snow.
So that was it. So I shoveled until 2:30 this afternoon, but we're all free now. So Mr. Chairman, I want to kind of walk through what to expect in the next few months or the next year with regard to the inclusion. We have now had the inclusion agreement approved and signed by everyone. And I believe it's on the district's website.
So the election day is May 4, 2021. Coming up in a month and a half or so. The election question has been certified so the language is fixed and it is also on the website. When you receive your ballot the election question is titled 6A. Don't be confused, it's the only question we just have to put that number on it. Because of the way Colorado's election system works.
So votes can be cast by mail or by delivering the ballot to a drop, Dropbox location. There's going to be two Dropbox locations. One is my office at 7400 East Orchard Road in Greenwood Village. And you can get that information if you need it later by calling me or by calling Ken or the district office. And the other will be the Castle Pines North Community Center or the district office at 7404 Yorkshire Drive.
So those ballots can either be mailed, or returned to one of those ballot boxes. My office will be open from 8 to 5 Monday through Friday until election night. And the community center will be open from 8 a.m. to 4.30 p.m. Monday through Friday for those drop boxes. Mail ballots will be mailed to eligible electors between April 12th and the 5th, or April, between the 22nd, April 12th and the 15th.
So that's when we will put them in the mail and you should receive them sometime shortly after that. Once received, the voters can return those ballots up to and including election day. But be aware, if you're going to do it on election day, you need to take it to an election ballot, a ballot box. Only ballots received by 7 p.m. on election day, May 4th will be counted.
So regardless of the postmark, they won't count unless they're received by 7 p.m. So if you think your ballot might not make that timely, go ahead and take it to one of the ballot box drop-off locations. And for Chris, if you're not home yet, you'll have eight additional days, and one ballot will be mailed to you wherever you are. I'm not sure how it gets to you, but it will. And if it doesn't, contact me and we'll make sure that you get one.
Chris:
Okay yeah so in the general elections I just got mine via email they sent me my ballot via email. Okay. Is there an option to do that that would work for me too and then I'll get it back. I will be in the US at that time, but I will not be in Denver.
Kim:
Okay yep it will come to you I'm not sure if it's via email but I will make sure that, that, that happens, and i'll follow up with the election official to see how that, how that occurs. When you get your ballot, you do have to affix postage to it.
It is not free of postage. The other thing to be aware of is the ballot requires signing and dating on the envelope. Be sure and sign it and date it. If it's not signed and dated, it can't be counted. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Jim or Ken at the district office, and he will contact the election official.
Or if you want to contact the election official directly, the phone number is (303)770-2700. The election official's name is Michelle Barrasso. Her email address is mbarrasso@svwpc.com and again you can get that information from Ken, or Jim Worley if you need it. The official results of the election will not be posted until after a Canvas board meets and certifies the results.
Up to 14 days after the election. We'll speed that up as quickly as we can. and more likely than not will know the results of the election, and they will be posted before that time. But those results are not official until approximately May 18th. Once the election is over and presuming that it is the inclusion is approved then we'll begin immediately the next day.
The process of trying to implement the inclusion agreement. We anticipate that's going to take all of 2021 and possibly longer. But by January of 2022, Parker Water and Sanitation District, if approved, will begin taking over the Castle Pines North system. Customers will not receive water from Parker Water and Sanitation District at that time. Parker Water will take over the Castle Pines system and continue operating it. So there will be no change in the water.
Only in who is providing it. Over time, Parker Water will connect the two systems. That's going to be a lengthy and difficult process with some long pipelines and things to connect to the reservoir. The purpose of that is not so the Castle Pines North people receive Parker Waters water but rather that water, that water that is lost through the Castle Pines system can be retrieved and placed in the reservoir for future use.
So it's more of a water saving measure than a delivery measure but it also provides the system for in the future when front range wells begin to go dry that water will be available. That Renewable water for the Castle Pines residents. So the interconnection of those two systems probably isn't going to take place for several years at a minimum I would think it may be six.
This is my guess six to ten years before it really happens. It's difficult and expensive and there's no reason to do it as long as Castle Pines water is holding up but it can be done quickly if necessary and provide that renewable water to Castle Pines customers. So by the end, beginning of 2022 Parker Water and San will begin operating the system.
We may be spending part of 2022 still conveying assets and selling assets to make this all work. But you'll see the Parker Water takeover at that time. And by, certainly by 2023, they will be totally in charge. And away we go. Any questions about that timeline or concerns that I can address?
David:
Well said, counsel. I think that we hear you loud and clear and hope that everyone else is able to as well. I don't have any specific questions. Director Lowen?
Chuck:
It's not necessarily a question. My only concern is that we encourage somehow, and maybe there's a plan. I haven't heard it yet, but we need to encourage the constituents of Castle Pines North to vote.
I've found over the last several years, when we've had votes. The number of votes that are cast usually is about a third of our actual voting constituents in Castle Pines North. I don't know why that is, but this is not a time to be lazy or to say well, somebody else is going to do it.
I don't need to worry about it. This is a critical issue that affects the future of, of this city. And it's important that everybody's voice is heard. Whether they want inclusion or not. We need to encourage that they vote. And so if anybody has any suggestions on how we get that word out now and on a continual basis right up until voting time. I’m ready to listen because we, we cannot not have the constituents activated to vote in this particular issue. So suggestions?
David:
Let me, let me, let me jump in and, and put you on hold for just a second on that. Chris, is there any follow-up questions to Mr. Seter?
Chris:
Yeah, I have one question, and it's more on the website. So as I was going through it on the week of April the 12th, it says that the Parker Water Sewer District designated election official will mail a ballot to each legally registered and voter in Castle Pines North. Will they be mailing it or will we be mailing it and how does that work? I thought you guys do that.
Kim:
Yeah Chris the, the election is actually technically Parker Water and Sanitation District's election. But they appointed my paralegal as the election official. And our agreement says that we, Castle Pines North, is paying for and conducting the election on behalf of Parker Water and San.
Chris:
Okay. Okay, that answers my question. No, I appreciate the outline on what's going to happen.
And, you know, I'll fall in behind Chuck on whatever we need to do to make sure we get everyone out there to vote. Typically, like he said, you know, we don't get as many people. But this is. Extremely important and we want everyone to jump in and do I would say, of which way they want to go. That's all I have. Thanks.
David:
Thanks Chris, I just want to compliment Chris, yourself and Chuck, and I know the Director Merritt and Director Crew for your patience in this regard. I have never had the pleasure of serving in public office with four colleagues that are more passionate. And very clear about what their goals and aspirations are for this community.
And by golly, when, when. From the very beginning when, as a slate of reform directors we were running, we ran on a platform that contained a single promise. And, and that promise is something that we made, and it is something that we're going to keep. Specifically, more for less. More what? More renewable water for less than 100 plus million dollars.
And that's what Chuck and Chris are talking about. It is imperative that everyone who is connected to and a part of this community participate in helping us bring forward A, the recognition of work that not only this board and this staff has put together and all the consultants, a number of consultants that are incredibly talented. But also the folks over at Parker, who out of, of their interest and sincerity for their clients and constituents as well, joined us in this study.
And again, a promise made is a promise kept. But we're going to need the help of our constituents in order to deliver that. And I'm going to expound on, on the deliverables in just a few minutes. It won't take a ton of time. But I wanted to, I wanted to pose this situation to you, counsel. And get your feedback.
Again as I said, a promise made is a promise kept. We have provided and are proposing an inclusion with, inside of the Parker Water and Sanitation District service area. We have promised to post on the website a calculator that would enable the folks here locally to look at their monthly bills and calculate the difference between their bills currently and the proposed bills.
Promise made, promise kept. We also made a promise that there would be a FAQ. I made this promise a number of times and I'm embarrassed to say that by virtue of my own ignorance in public life and, and as an elected official. We have been guided and directed to handle that a bit differently than the way that we promised.
And I, I am frustrated with that promise and our inability by law to deliver on it. There's not a question that I've received, and I've received hundreds and hundreds of questions that I didn't believe. Deserved not only an answer, but as much information as I had. Because again, it was very tough, Council to put two and a half years of work in 16 pages.
And so it has been brought to my attention a number of times that we could have talked about one specific vitamin or another a little bit more, but we're here to do that now as, as, as my colleagues are imploring us to do. The only vehicle that we have is an FAQ and, and but I would like for everyone that is Zooming in, that is participating tonight, and that will receive this information. Hear it from you on, on how, if anything, we can do about that promise and keeping it, Counsel?
Kim:
Yes. Unfortunately once we start down the road of an election. The Fair Campaign Practices Act ties the hands of the board somewhat with regard to what they can do. In terms of providing information to, to the citizens and the voters.
So there’s, there are limits to the kinds of meetings that can take place, the kind of information that can be distributed. Your board has been pretty careful to stay within those lines. And unfortunately there just can't be a lot more because of the way the law is written. There will be an opportunity for the board to approve a resolution of support for the ballot measure.
And that could be some of the best information available. But I hate to be the bad guy. But that's just the way the law works.
David:
Well, I appreciate that and I didn't mean to put you on the spot as much as. That's why you are. Make a whole lot more money than I do at this position.
But no, in all seriousness, thank you for that explanation. It is a matter of law. And I just want to share with my colleagues. And those folks that are online listening in that I sincerely apologize for having made that representation. And any frustration or disillusion or disappointment that I have caused because of my ignorance in that regard.
I and my colleagues are available directly online via email, directly via telephone. Staff is as well. And we remain at your service to answer the questions that you have to a degree that you are satisfied with. And, and, but as it relates to this posting of frequently asked questions and the answers that we, we insist that you deserve. We do have our hands tied in a, in a way that, again, culminates in my making this apology. So I'm sorry for that. Director?
Chuck:
Kim, I noticed it from your March 10th memorandum that we have as part of our notes tonight. There are several matters that are still pending or being reviewed. Or discussed, but there's no action that's required at this time. That's what your note says, are there any matters in this document or any others that we don't know of in front of us that we should resolve sooner than later? Or do any of these issues or matters affect our relationship with Parker, or are these in-house issues for this board only?
Kim:
One of the things we did in the inclusion agreement was to recognize that Castle Pines North has to continue operating until Parker Water and San. takes it over, if it does. So Parker Water and San. is aware of all of these issues. And we can just take them in due course and handle them as we would even if we weren't involved in this election. So they're aware of them. They have expressed their thoughts on several of them. And we've adjusted negotiations or other matters to meet their needs also.
Chuck:
Perfect. Thank you, Kim.
David:
Hearing no other questions, Council, let me, let me just wrap up by sharing with everyone that is in attendance this evening. A very, very important part of this inclusion. And, and, and, it, and again, it was one of those issues that were in our synopsis but wasn’t. Apparently not enough time spent on it. And, and that was characterized by me, or not by me. Characterized to me one day. By the whole story not being heard, or conveyed to our residents. And more specifically, it had to do with the parks that this district manages and oversees and owns.
The miles of trails, the acres and acres and acres of open space, as well as the stormwater responsibilities in those areas. I'm here to say that all of the services, and all of the, and the quality of those services. And the quantity of those services. As a steward of those assets, nothing will change. As a part of this inclusion.
Nothing in that regard will change. The inclusion has to do with water and sewer only, and this is sanitary sewer, not storm sewer. But water and sewer only. So again let me restate that the quality, the quantity of the services as it relates to those assets that we have been held, that we're responsible for stewarding will not change.
No assets of that side of, of our responsibility is included in the inclusion. None of them are being negotiated or contemplated for sale. None of them are being discussed as a part of the inclusion. That is a standalone responsibility, and a standalone responsibility that we steward. There will be no changes if and when inclusion is approved.
The mill levy that is collected by this body specifically for the services and, and the stewardship of those assets will remain. And as always, 100 cents on the dollar will be put forth as this board renders the opportunity for not only the required and desired maintenance. But for the improvements for the residents of Castle Pines.
Just want to make sure that we're clear on that. The inclusion is water and sanitation, sewer only. None of the other assets or services will be, or will see a change, okay? Concur, counsel?
Kim:
I do.
David:
Okay. Very good. I'm going to close then. Legal's report thanking you for an outstanding job and a great report. We do have a number of things that are in play. And I'm happy to report that, that they're all very active. And I know that we're keeping you plenty busy.
We have a couple more things, so stay tuned. But in the meantime, I know that I had gotten an update from you, Jim on one of these items. Which was the improvements the approval of the improvements. Acceptance of the improvements in Lagae and namely the lift station that was a big issue a few months ago and a, and a byproduct of staff.
Nathan, yourself, council. I just want to say, I want to give a shout out to Darwin Horan as well. You know, it took engaging the big guy to bring this full circle and to deliver this to the people of, of, of this district and he did it like a champ.
Acknowledging his responsibility and putting forth the necessary time and effort with his staff to get this done and we're looking at that lift station being up to speed with the new pumps and state-of-the-art equipment in there by the end of this month I believe. And we'll be able to take all those items off that list.
Council. So in the meantime, that was a big undertaking. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars. And with the pandemic and with some of the issues abroad. Just to even get those pumps, let alone get them installed at the quality. The level of quality that they're going to be.
Again, nice job to your staff. Nice job Jim, Kim, Darwin, we appreciate that. And I'll finish, like I say, by closing the legal counsel report item 8. And open it up to the finance director's report. Eric, are you on?
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Eric is speaking via the Zoom meeting.
Financial Director Eric Harris:
Yes, good evening sir. And good, good morning.
David:
You have the floor.
Eric:
Thank you. Thank you very much. In your board packet this evening, you have my financial report. This includes February 2021 financial statements. Fairly early on, this is obviously the earliest Monday of any one month that we can have. So we tried to get a lot of accruals in, but more than likely we didn't catch all of our invoice activity that occurred for February.
So I encourage you to view it through that lens. However, as we're just two months into the year, not too, not many budget variances to report. We're trending in the right direction. I resolved, I revised very few if any budgets so nothing material to report there in our projections.
I would like to report our capital asset ledgers have closed for the prior year, and we ship those books off to the auditor. We had our general governmental assets increased by $160 000 in book assets. Our enterprise assets increased by approximately $1.28 million. Primarily due to the Chatfield project. Another item to mention in my report.
Winter usage through February, cumulative is about 35.6 million gallons. With the few exceptions of last year, it was in line with the years before that, so I can't. Speak to what happened in January of last year. But overall our winter usage is trending where it should be. We're following up on a couple transactions.
I've been working with Mr, Mr. Worley on those. And just a reminder, in our 2021 budget we will if, if this inclusion is approved. We will come back to you for budget amendments for all the activity that aligns with the timeline that that inclusion agreement justifies. And we'll bring that to you later this year.
So that we can transact on that agreement with that. I don't have much more to report. Are there any questions?
David:
Chris, any, anything for Eric?
Chris:
No questions from me, thank you.
David:
Very good. One question Eric, and nice job on, on putting this package together. It is handsome to say the least. You, I think over the course of this new year, have been patiently waiting for some additional information associated with the inclusion. I just want to make sure you've received everything that you wanted and need to this, to this date.
Eric:
To date, yes. Okay. And we will, as we continue to develop and finalize our financial modeling for our cash projections. We'll roll that into our management report when that time is appropriate.
David:
Look forward to that conversation. Couldn't be happier that you have everything that you need now. That'll lighten up on all the messages. From you to me. And, and thanks for following up. Really appreciate the report as well. I'm going to ask that you make a motion, or that you. Yeah what, would you. Go ahead and make a motion for this month's finance information or finance transactions, please.
Eric:
Yes, sir. Thank you very much. I'll go ahead and read these off for the record. In your, in your report you have check numbers 25866-25929. These are for claims submitted for ratification, February 6th through March 5th, 2021. General fund expenditures to approve are $16,518.80 to ratify $32,523.22 to total $49,042.02. For your enterprise funds, you have. Claims for $78,368.07 to ratify $206,405.47 to total $284,773.54. You have electronic payments that include $84,838.97. All told, $418,654.53.
David:
Thank you, Eric. And counsel, I know you're listening in. This is either the second or third time that I've asked Eric to provide or make that presentation of the current payables. But I asked him to make it in the form of a motion for my own edification. Is that allowed or is that only allowed from a board member?
Kim:
No, he can certainly make the motion and then you're adopting whatever he states. So that's fine.
David:
Very good, what both of them said then. That being said, we have a motion on the floor we won't review or rehearse that any more than a question, a comment, or a concern before I receive a second.
Chuck:
I'll second that motion for adoption.
David:
Very good at one last chance comments, questions, concerns? Motion and a second on the floor.
Board Voting All Speak:
Hearing none, all those in. All those in favor, please indicate by saying aye in unison. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay.
David:
Hearing none, motion passes unanimously. Thank you Eric, nice job. Thank you Kim.
Chuck:
Thank you. David, just a point of clarification. Did I hear you say that you thought this financial report was handsome?
David:
I did.
Chuck:
Could it be beautiful?
Chris:
I concur. He said handsome.
Eric:
I will work on that. Thank you.
Chuck:
In this cancel culture we have, I just want to be sure we don't cause any other issues.
David:
Absolutely, Director Lowen. Absolutely. Hearing no more criticism from my colleague. Absolutely it could be beautiful, as it is. Thank you again, Eric. And thank you, counsel. I'm going to close item 9 and open up item number 10. District manager's report. Mr. Worley, you have the floor.
Jim:
Thank you, Mr. President. Wanna, you have my report in front of you. I wanna, I wanna add a couple of items. The first one is the Forest Park sewer issue. We've talked about that since December. The weather has held us from being able to take care of those three manholes that are actually on the golf course. We'll get those taken care of. The vents have all been installed. And starting next week, we're going to do that. I'll call it a pilot program, for lack of a better term. To where we'll inject a chemical of which I can't pronounce or even spell. To help with this odor issue.
It's kind of a trial for us so we'll let you know more as time goes on but that, that'll be starting. I believe next week. Another item and this is a little disappointing. It's not on my report but it's related to our lockbox. We were contacted by Citywide Bank last fall. And, and the comment from them was, we're going to get out of the lockbox business and we're going to offer you a lockbox with an organization that's actually in Dallas.
And so we had the choice of either making a complete change in our banking relationship or doing what I would hope would have been a temporary. Change either way we would have had to change our post office box because that one was going to be closed. Unfortunately due to, and I say this with all love, I have a lot of family in Dallas. And they went through a snowstorm and an ice storm maybe three weeks ago, whatever. And they're happy to see us go through it now.
But what happened on that, is there was a major delay when it comes to the actual gathering of those checks that go to the lockbox, and therefore was a delay. And so some of our utility bills that were sent out showed a payment not made on it. And so we've had a number of phone calls on that.
And, and big credit to Susan and to Carol because they fielded all those calls. And so the bottom line is we're trying to get it fixed. I had a very heart-to-heart conversation with some people the other day and said either fix it, or I'll fix it. And so those who may be having an issue with this. Please don't hesitate to call us.
And we'll certainly work with you on that. We're not not charging any late fees, and we don't have anything to do with credit agencies. And so we haven't been charging fees for this whole year. And so there's no problem with that. Contact us if you have issues on that. We can address that.
Chuck:
Jim, are we, are we maintaining our relationship with your Dallas lockbox?
Jim:
As of right now, we are. And the reason we are right now, I was hoping to get past the election. Assuming an approval of the election. Then we might do some other things at that point. If the election. Is a no, let's just say. And we continue forward as we have been for years. Then I'll seriously consider that and try to bring it local if possible.
This was hopefully just a temporary situation. And while it's caused some heartburn with some of our residents. It's caused some major headaches for Carol and Susan in working with this. So my apologies to anybody that's had this effort, this problem, and these ladies have done. I believe, a great job of working with people. And everybody's been. Okay with it.
So I just want to let that know. But call us if there's issues. If there's an issue going on please give us a call. I think that is, oh the last one which is on our agenda. Good news bad news good news we've been needing and got a lot of moisture for those of us who have sore muscles today from shoveling. That's one of the negatives, but, but the bad news is we think we're supposed to get some more tomorrow night.
Whether it's going to be a lot or not. So what that does is it temporarily postpones our cleanup day, which we were going to have this Wednesday. I don't think, unless you're going to talk about it tonight, we don't have a date yet. But we won't be out there walking around in the mud and the melting snow this coming Wednesday.
So please stay tuned. Unless there's discussion tonight on that. We'll reschedule that because that was a great event. First one we had, we had a number I'm not sure how many signed up. 22 according to Ken, had signed up for this Wednesday event. So hopefully they'll still be ready when we're ready to do it. So that's all I have, Mr. Chairman.
David:
Yeah, that's truly disappointing. However, it's likely that the weather will improve. That the number of participants will improve. With everybody on board and those that have not yet gotten on board, there's a growing number that are. Look forward to a cleanup. Scheduled probably, if not later this month, first part or next.
But, let's watch the weather and, and then we'll communicate accordingly. Director yep. Very good. Jim, thank you very much for that report. Any questions for Jim, Chris, whether it has to do with his report or the Kennedy Jenks report?
Chris:
Nope. No questions. Good in both of those.
David:
Director Lowen?
Chuck:
No, no. Thank you.
David:
And, And again we’ll, Mrs. Mulvey will, Councilwoman Mulvey will keep you apprized of the revised clean update as well. We appreciate your helping out. And that effort always. Thank you again. I'm going to close.
Chris:
Yeah, let me add. Let me add, David. We appreciate you guys actually including that in your information, Councilwoman Mulvey. So thanks to the city for including the cleanup day in there.
David:
Very good. Thank you, Chris. I'm going to close item 10. And open up director's matters. I'm going to jump in and address two things, if I may. First, I wanted to just share with everyone that is Zoomed in and attending tonight. Those that are participating online and those that are here that.
This board has consistently made decisions. And taken on initiatives that culminate in delivering three things. With every one of those decisions and those initiatives. And that is for individual owners within the district. Those decisions culminate in an improved quality of life.
Additional and enhanced security. And thirdly, an appreciable gain on the investments that they've made in this community. It's with that disposition that I want to. Go on to just let my colleagues know how incredibly impressed and grateful I am for their humility. Their kindness, their love, and their grace. Let me be a little more specific about this and as it relates to the inclusion.
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David stands up, grabs a piece of paper that is on his desk, puts his glasses on, grabs a dry erase marker and walks over to the white board that is placed next to him on the right hand side.
David:
I want to talk. And if I'm not being heard, let me know. But I want to talk just for a minute. About how graceful, how kind, and the humility that each one of these directors have. And are delivering as a byproduct of, of this inclusion possibility. One example would be everyone remembers the 2015 Renewable Water Plan. This was what we inherited.
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David holds up a thick newspaper called The Connection to the audience that he got from his desk and then drops it back on the desk again.
David:
Remember? 300 options drilled down to 10. It was going to cost $120,000. The first go around $103,000. The second go around for a promised 50% share of renewable water that the residents were letting the district know. Under no uncertain terms that they were interested in having. Now, that renewable water is what I spoke about initially.
It adds to the appreciable gain of each and every one of our homes and the investments that we've made in this community. It adds to the security of our livelihood. And our living within this community. And it adds to the quality of life. To be secure on the front, on the waterfront of this inclusion is historic, to say the least.
David:
But let me put some numbers to it. You remember that again, it was $100 million for 50%.
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David starts to write the numbers he’s talking about on the white board and does long division to explain his point.
David:
Let's make believe that it is $200 million. For 100% okay? If you divide that by 3,500 residents, and I'm just being, generalizing, looking at build-out. That would be about $57,000. Plus dollars each is what it would cost the residents to garner. If at all, 100% at $200 million. Now that was never an option. But if one were to deduce if 50% was for 100 plus, we might be able to get. 100, 100% for $200,000. That was the original plan.
Let's take a look at the inclusion and, and what, how it would impact each one of us. In the synopsis, it says that to deliver the renewable water from the Northeast portion of Colorado to Rueter-Hess and to make it available for Castle Pines North Metro District customers, Parker was approximately $600 million. Okay? If you take that $600 million and you divide that by today. Let's just divide it today by 20,000 people. 20,000. That's 17,500 of Parker and our 35. Well, that number comes out to be $30,000, each.
So we're already headed in the right direction. Instead of 57,000. On the shoulders of every one of the residents for a promise made and a promise not kept. For a promise made, and with the willingness of our residents, a promise kept. It goes from $57,000 to $30,000 if we were going to pay for it. But we all know that we're not asking for any additional tax money. That we're not asking for any additional fees or any additional rate hike. But I wanted to draw the comparison.
Speaking about that deliver, deliverable, Council said that that renewable water. Along with the mesh network associated with connecting the districts, might take some time. So just for the heck of it, let's take that time. But let's, let’s inflate the 600 million for a little bit of time. Let's make it 800 million. Okay? And again, just for the heck of it, by this time.
Well water in both locations. The South Platte being a primary source of water, whether it be through Chatfield or on the South Platte and, and Cherry Creek available to Parker Water. It may be some time before we need this renewable water. So it’s in tomorrow's dollars. It's $800 million. Multi, or divide that by the 50,000 people that we talk about at Build Out.
Because there's no definitive timeline on this. In addition to the fact that we're securing partners and other participants, etc. It's just going to continue to drive down costs. But you divide that and what do you have? $16,000 each. So just as a comparison and as a piece of information to think about as those ballots are being prepared. As they're, as they’re going out to the residents. This is where we were.
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David points to the number $57,000 he has written on the white board.
David:
Heavy burden of 57,000 on the shoulders of each and every one of us. This is where we're headed.
Describer:
David points to the number $16,000 he has written on the white board.
David:
This is the epitome of the economies and efficiencies that are associated with this inclusion. And by all means, it's one of the underlying reasons that this board is recommending its approval. Let me make one last point. This has to do with the idea of, of perception, compared to reality. Everyone got a copy of the connection this last couple weeks.
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David holds up a thick news paper called The Connection that he is referencing.
David:
They saw that beautiful picture on the front, a gorgeous reservoir that we all see every time we come home off of I-25 and onto the Castle Pines Parkway. And when I started campaigning for this position and this responsibility. I'll bet it was 90% of everybody. Maybe 100% of everybody that I met.
And I'll bet I met a thousand people. There wasn't one person that didn't believe that that reservoir, being right there in front of their face, wasn't available to us or wasn't ours. It was, it was as much of a misunderstanding as the rift that they went on to talk about. Which they characterized as a rip in the fabric of the city. Which was the difference between the people in the canyons and what they paid for water and sewer. Versus what the Legacy Village paid.
We were paying a premium. It's been said a 25% premium. So not only did we have this rip in the fabric of the city. But we threw salt in the wound and let them know on the campaign trail that that reservoir that wasn't ours. That was Parker's. Oh, but we had 1500 acre feet of storage in there. In fact, we bought it for eight and a half million dollars. The problem with it is there was no way to get any water in there from Castle Pines North or any water out. So as a renter of space. Eight and a half million dollars later. Didn't help much. But let's look at that. Eight and a half million bucks.
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David is writing these numbers he is talking about on the white board and multiplying them together to make his point.
If you multiply eight and a half million dollars, and remember, we had 1,500 feet. Let's do something first. Let’s go, let’s go 1,500 feet, 1,500 acre feet, divided by 75,000 feet, which is the capacity of Ruder-Hass. And, and what you get is 50. So there's 50 units of 1,500 acre feet inside of Ruder-Hass. We spent eight and a half million bucks on one of those units.
Let's multiply it by 50 to see what that asset as a renter really is. You take 850 times eight and a half million. You get, I think it's about $425,000. No, $425 million dollars. $425 million is what that in the marketplace is worth. But of course, we're just renters. We have no access to it or no access from it.
But we got 1,500 feet on our portfolio in our, in our portfolio. Doesn't do us much help. $425 million. Take that $425 million. And divide that by, let's divide that by the 50, let’s divide that by the 50,000 people that are ultimately going to use it. And correct me if I'm wrong, Director Lowen, but that's $8,500 each.
Describer:
David is dividing these numbers together on the white board. Is that correct?
Chuck:
It is.
David:
$8,500. So we've got $8,500 of appreciable gain. If we're included because we become owners equal to level playing ground, no difference with the residents in Parker's water and sanitation district. We all become one. We all become owners. We all then have access to put water in and to take water out. And as it has been illustrated in a variety of tools that we've given and pieces of information. That water source is Cherry Creek water. That water source is South Platte. It's WISE water.
It is the farm water project up in Northern Colorado. And it could certainly be some of our hawk-hawking water that comes through Chatfield. The sources are numerous and plentiful. We're going to fill that reservoir with 75,000 acre feet. And everybody that comes off I-25 and sees that gorgeous piece of work is going to know that they own a piece of it at $8,500.
So add that to the bottom line of the asset that you have here. Call it your home. Oh well, let's not forget this one up here. The difference between $16,000 and $57,000 is $40,000. $40,000 and $85,000 is every bit of $50,000. So $50,000 in real value on May 4th. In a resale scenario as a builder and a developer In today's dollars, $50,000 tomorrow's dollars. Where water is, is a commodity that is definitive and, and growing and appreciating rates that are unheard of, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That $50,000 is $100,000 or more in no time.
That's what inclusion does when you're an owner and not a renter. That's what this board is delivering. As a recommendation for inclusion. Questions, comments, concerns?
Describer:
David sits back down. I heard. I think that was a siren in support. Very good. Directors, I just wanted to share some of the things that I doodle constantly and, and I wish my handwriting were, were a little bit better. But I think that the math is obvious. That inclusion is an incredible opportunity for appreciable gain or profit, however you want to call it. That the security associated with deliverable water indefinitely is in place. And the quality of life for having the afore two items is just improved.
Not to mention the fact that access to Rueter-Hess and all of the outdoor activities associated with that beautiful asset will be ours to share with everyone else within the Parker Water. And Sanitation District equally. I have nothing else, directors?
Chuck:
You know, one of the items that caught my attention back in 2016. As a business person was the mill levies that our current board and metro district was charging. People will think back what their mill levy for their home was in 2016. I think they might remember the number 30. 30 mills. We were the highest mill levy for a metro district in a five-county region.
That's what got my attention, and that's what made me feel as a business person, that something wasn't right here. And, and in learning about how those mills were created. I got the comfort that they were driven by the bonds that were put on Castle Pines North. To do the infrastructure development way back when.
Long story, not going into that. But when those bonds were going to get paid off, our mills would drop. And I thought, wow. That's great because when the mills drop. My expenses to my tenants will drop. And for 21 years as managing Village Square. I found it difficult to, difficult to keep our tenants in place. Because of our rent and primarily because of our operating expenses.
So my goal in 2016 was to help defeat that bond and keep our mill levy. Reasonable for this community. It affected me as a resident, it affected me as a business person. In 2018, when I found out the district was going to come back. And they lowered their total dollar amount from like $130 million to $103 million.
That's good. And I went to all of the open houses. It really sounded great. But one thing stuck in my mind, that 30 is not going away. That mill levy is going to stick. We're still going to be a community with the highest mill levy for a metro district in a five-county region. There's no getting around it.
I didn't like that. It still was affecting my tenants. And I was still losing tenants. And I've been accused of not being able to keep tenants for a multitude of reasons. But the mill levy was one of them. When the bonds were paid off and that vote in 2018 failed. I hope our community recognizes that where did the mills go?
We went from 30 to 19. That's huge. So in talking with people today about this inclusion, one of the comments I hear is what's, what’s going to happen to the mills? Are they going to go up? Well our, our brochure said no. They're going to go down a quarter of a point or something. And everybody goes, you know, those are numbers. You're trying to market this. Are they going to go up?
And I, and it was hard for me to convince the community members that our mills are not going to go up, at least initially. Maybe someday they will, but not to the level that we experienced prior to 2018. Well, what if the inclusion doesn't go through? Ah, will the mills change? Well, I can ask Jim Worley. What affects our mills for this metro district?
The cost of water, the cost of infrastructure repair, the cost of payroll. Is any of that going to go up over the next five to ten years? Will it affect our mills? Could we go up one mill, two mill, three mill? Will we find any value in not doing anything in this inclusion? Will our mill levies crater at some point in time and hit that 30 mill level again?
If it does, I'm going to slit my wrist. It will. We're at 19 mills today. We're going down in our mills. If the inclusion passes with Parker. How good is that for us as homeowners and as businessmen in Castle Pines? This is awesome. So again, I harp on the fact that this is not a ballot issue that is raising costs for the community.
If people will remember back how long they've been here. I've been here about 25 years. I'm a native of Colorado, but in Castle Pines, over 25 years. Every ballot issue that I can remember was for a tax increase. Tax increase for the. For the library, tax increase for the roads, tax increase for the metro district. It never stopped.
And how many of those passed? None. This community is pretty, pretty smart. They don't need tax increases. They're families, they have kids. They have wives' work, husbands' work. It's a, it’s a great community to live. But they don't need additional debt. What are we offering? We're offering a chance to keep our mills where they should be in a competitive community. And in metro district.
In a four or five county region. We're reducing our water costs. We're getting rid of the fees that were imposed upon us because the votes failed in the past. This is nothing but a win-win situation. And if David's numbers are right, they seem to be a little loose. David, with all due respect. But they prove a point.
There is value here beyond keeping the mills where they are, beyond reducing the fees. There's value here for all of us to experience. In time if we buy or sell a home. And I think that again, I harp on the fact that this is an opportunity that I did not see happening when I opposed. The bond in 2016. I didn't think I was going to be part of this.
But boy, I'm glad I am because this is something that is beneficial to me as a person. So yes, I'm selfish. I like it. As a business person, yes. It's going to create value for my center and for my tenants, which won't have to pay for higher mills. Which runs up the cost of steaks, runs up the cost of cleaning, runs up the cost of doing your nails.
We're keeping those numbers down. We're keeping our tenants. This is what the community wants. So this inclusion is far more reaching than just being able to provide the community water at a lower price. This is a huge beneficial ingredient to our, our future and our success for Castle Pines. So I'm glad to be part of it, Dave.
David:
Thank you, Chuck. And while I do take exception to the comment of my numbers being loose if anything.
Chuck:
They're handsome.
David:
Well, if anything, they're beautifully conservative. And, and let me just reiterate those numbers that I shared with you. The byproduct of inclusion is $50,000 per resident. On the upside, on the upside of value, quality of life, and security in their life.
You could say it another way. It's $50,000 that our residents, or was it a little loose when I said $57,000, it's $57,000 that having the same appetite and aspiration for renewable water is not going to be shouldered by our residents. It's a $107,000 swing. There is no additional property taxes. It's a property tax cut, as you clearly pointed out. There is no increase in rates and fees.
It is 98% of the folks in this resident, in this community are going to see a reduction in water rate. 83% in a combination of water and sewer. There are no, as it says in our synopsis. Zero Z-E-R-O. Zero additional taxes to pay for this inclusion. Zero that will be asked immediately and in the future. To be born by the residents in order to achieve more for less promise made promise kept, nice job. All right.
Chris:
Here's my fist bump.
David:
To you Chris and Chris without letting the opportunity get away again big time kudos thank you appreciation you know Craig's guys they got up at five or six you get up at three. Three o'clock to make this meeting and, and, and, so you win this one and every time that we get a chance to visit with you we miss you and, and we appreciate you and, and couldn't be happier. For again the news we got last month that you're on the downhill side of that deployment and will be coming home here before too terribly long. So thank you again. And we'll talk soon.
Chris:
Yeah, well, I just want to show the appreciation for being part of this team. You know, as you beautifully, handsomely went through your numbers. Absolutely. You know, we got together to make, make sure that we didn't. We weren't saddled with $103 million or 50% of renewable water. And, you know we went we, we ran on the whole premise or the opportunity that we can do better. We should not accept where we were.
And yes this is exactly what the inclusion is delivering, right we're delivering on a promise made to do better than where we were before. And to be more cost effective to have more efficiency within the district. You know and that's where we're going to continue going. And I like the way Chuck also outlined the whole mills. That is definitely should resonate with everyone.
The cost savings that's going to be about there and that the mills will definitely go down. And if we don't do the inclusion in our future we will see those mills go back up. But the part I think is more important or adds to this is the unification of our community. We're going to have essentially the folks that are in the canyons and us all together on the legacy side unified in one water district, and that's where we should be.
We should all be one community, right everybody's coming together to help us clean the, the parks everybody is looking forward to how can we better improve our roads everyone is looking forward to how we can make sure that the fences on our side you know is not, dilapidated and and bring down the value of the legacy group by having one community. And that's where we want to be.
So I do appreciate all of you. You know Dave, Chuck, Denise and Robert are not here, Denise and Robert are not here. But we're all in this together. And we are all, like you said, got together from the initial, initial time when we ran as a slate to do better for this community. So thanks and I appreciate each and every one of you and I, I thank you guys for allowing me to participate in this. That's all I have.
David:
It sounded like to me a motion for adjournment.
Board Voting All Speak:
Is there a second? Second. Second.
Jim:
Sorry, Mr. Chairman, you do have one more public.
David:
Oh, you're right again.
Describer:
Jim and David are briefly talking at the same time that we can’t hear what each individual person is saying.
David:
That's the second time I've done that. I know. I got all excited. Well, every time I talk about this. I know. I can't tell you how giddy I get.
Jim:
We're taking notes. Okay. Appreciate it.
David:
Let me get back to it. Here, thank you, Jim. I'm going to close Director's Matters. Thank you, everyone for putting up with me and, and hearing me out in this regard. It does it. I get giddy and. So closing item 11, opening up item 12. Which are the closing public comment period. I don't know that we have any additional sign-ins.
We do not. As I mentioned to Belinda if she wanted to speak after our meeting. And before we adjourned, I was going to give her another opportunity. Belinda, are you still with us, and would you. Do you have any other questions?
Belinda King Castle Pines Resident:
I am still with you. And I thank you all for what you do.
My questions probably would fall to Jim Worley and Mr. Miller. I'm a part of the Daniels Park Rec Association, and they have been working on this also for some time. And we've switched management companies. So I'm not sure where the ball dropped. But I heard you talk about the city approved. The Comcast, or not Comcast. Some sort of cable company that came through. And busted a line last March.
It was an irrigation line the Daniels Gate board repaired the line it is on; it is the line feeds the metro district's property. But if we didn't the grass would have died there was two trees out there that borders the Daniels Gate Rec board. I was, our last management company was under the impression that this.
We had it repaired and this would be reimbursed to us. The last time we spoke with Mr. Worley, he said it is a matter of the city. If you guys are dealing with the city with the same company that damaged property on Castle Pines Parkway would this not also be inclusive. Because this was a line that fed the Metro District's property. But it was in front of the Daniels Date Rec Association. Again if we left if we had just let the line die.
You have two trees, grass, frontage in front of the building that would have died and it was it, it would have looked bad. So the line's been repaired and we did it at our cost. But I don't know where to go with this. Because I don't believe it was our cost to be repaired other than just aesthetics to the ground.
Jim:
Thanks, Belinda. This is Jim Worley. Yeah, we've met a few times. And we'll do it again. We continue to meet with them on these issues. This particular one was on their property. And so that's why we're trying to work with the city on repairing some of our property and their property too. So Belinda's right. But I hope you're confident Belinda that we will continue to work together like we always have.
Belinda:
So are you working, or do I need to get you the invoice? Are you working to help this get paid back to the Daniels Gate record. Or where does this fall I guess?
Jim:
Why don't you send me the invoice Belinda, no promises. But send me the invoice and, and a contact info. I think I have your number here. I do, I have your contact info here. And I'll reach out to you and we'll talk about it.
Belinda:
Okay, and then the second issue again was the Daniels Gate Board. You know, we have the two taps up there we've been paid for, paying for. And somehow one of them was shut off last year. Where we weren't getting enough pressure to feed the pool.
We are working with Corey and you, and I understand it will take a second to the snow removal and that coming forward. We'll have to change some dates. But very concerned that they can't find these taps to be turned back on. And we will have the same. Pressure problem next year where we're hauling water in to feed the pool.
Other than the tap we're paying for, for the clubhouse. And it does not. It's a smaller line and doesn't suffice. You know, it's like putting your garden hose to feed that pool. I don't know when or where we can get this addressed to, I do know Corey. And he met with us. Was out the other day. And I know Nathan needs to try to come out and find lines. But I don't want to get to the 1st of May. And not know that this line can't be turned back on.
Jim:
We'll stay on top of it. Thank you, Belinda.
Belinda:
Thank you. And thank all of you for what you do in your time.
David:
Thank you, Belinda. We appreciate you as well. You know, those questions prompted me to ask Jim. The, we had a couple months ago decided to make sure that we addressed the Forest Park issue on no less than a monthly basis. And you've taken on that as a part of your monthly report, and we appreciate that.
I'd like to ask you to add additionally Belinda's. The answer to Belinda's questions as well as. It seems to be somewhat in a common situation with, with the conversation we had with Craig and in part with, with Councilwoman Mulvey etc. The area behind the curb in that right of way.
And so if you would, until further notice, until we've completed these tasks, add them to your report. One would be the, the right of way reclamation project and then the Belinda King project. How's that? All right.
Jim:
Perfect thank you.
David:
Okay. Very good thank you. And that’ll keep all of us accountable for being ready for the springtime.
Ms. King. All right. Anybody else? Hearing none, I will close item 12, the public comment period. And look for that motion to adjourn again.
Chris:
I make a motion to adjourn.
Chuck:
I'll second it.
David:
We have a rounding, a motion. A motion to adjourn and a second.
Board Voting All Speak:
All those in favor in unison say good night. Good night. Good night. Good night.
David:
Those opposed, you may stay. Hearing no opposition. Meeting adjourned. Good night Chris.
Chris:
Good night guys.
David:
Good night all. Thank you.